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    Head bolt orings

    Does anyone know what size the orings that go on those two cylinder head bolts are? I'm going to open it up yet again to see if I could cork this annoying drip.
    Im guessing removing the bolts won't harm the head gasket as long as nothing actually moves.
    -1980 GS1100 LT
    -1975 Honda cb750K
    -1972 Honda cl175
    - Currently presiding over a 1970 T500

    #2
    What O-rings? What head bolts?
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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      #3
      I know the ones but any seal place should have a set. As long as there snug and still sit proud of the "nut" #17 in workshop manual but doesnt give you the size.
      Last edited by Guest; 05-06-2011, 10:10 PM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by sharpy View Post
        I know the ones but any seal place should have a set. As long as there snug and still sit proud of the "nut"
        Please explain.
        Ed

        To measure is to know.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Nessism View Post
          What O-rings? What head bolts?
          Them O Rings.....Them Head nuts....


          Last edited by bonanzadave; 04-09-2016, 12:41 PM.
          82 1100 EZ (red)

          "You co-opting words of KV only thickens the scent of your BS. A thief and a putter-on of airs most foul. " JEEPRUSTY

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            #6
            Originally posted by bonanzadave View Post
            Them O Rings.....Them Head Bolts....

            Thanks Dave, those are the ones. I put a new head and base gasket on my bike about five years ago; but guess what I didn't install new . The leak isn't a horrible one, but no leak is good. If I shove a piece of rag in that vicinity, I can stop the leak for about an hour, but that's not even a band-aid fix.
            -1980 GS1100 LT
            -1975 Honda cb750K
            -1972 Honda cl175
            - Currently presiding over a 1970 T500

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              #7
              Which models have those? I don't remember anything like that on the '78 or '79 GS1000 models. Thanks for the education. Ray
              "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded" -Yogi Berra
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              1978 GS1000EC Back home with DJ
              1979 GS1000SN The new hope
              1986 VFR700F2 Recycled

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                #8
                Originally posted by Ghostgs1 View Post
                Which models have those? I don't remember anything like that on the '78 or '79 GS1000 models. Thanks for the education. Ray
                Must be a 16V thing.
                Ed

                To measure is to know.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by sharpy View Post
                  I know the ones but any seal place should have a set. As long as there snug and still sit proud of the "nut"
                  I'm sure you're right, and I have a few sources I can think of; but they're usually closed at the same times I get to work on the bike.
                  I'm still somewhat new to the concept of planning ahead.
                  -1980 GS1100 LT
                  -1975 Honda cb750K
                  -1972 Honda cl175
                  - Currently presiding over a 1970 T500

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sharpy View Post
                    I know the ones but any seal place should have a set. As long as there snug and still sit proud of the "nut" #17 in workshop manual but doesnt give you the size.
                    I would think they are rated for high temp.

                    Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                    Must be a 16V thing.
                    Yep, and only 2 head nuts have the o rings.



                    Geez...I dont have a caliper at home . Look to be about .880 OD

                    Let me look at a MS cross reference.....
                    Last edited by bonanzadave; 04-09-2016, 12:44 PM.
                    82 1100 EZ (red)

                    "You co-opting words of KV only thickens the scent of your BS. A thief and a putter-on of airs most foul. " JEEPRUSTY

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                      #11
                      I like these at McMaster Carr. You can give all the extras as GSR X-Mas gifts....

                      O-Rings, Cord Stock, and Accessories
                      This product matches all of your selections.


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                      In stock for $11.21 per pack
                      O-Ring Sizing Chart

                      FALSE
                      AS568A Dash Number
                      115
                      Type
                      O-Ring
                      O-Ring Type
                      Standard
                      Cross Section Shape
                      Round
                      Width
                      3/32"
                      Actual Width
                      .103"
                      Inside Diameter
                      11/16"
                      Actual Inside Diameter
                      .674"
                      Outside Diameter
                      7/8"
                      Actual Outside Diameter
                      .880"
                      Material
                      PTFE
                      Durometer
                      Extra Hard
                      Durometer Shore
                      Shore D: 55
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                      82 1100 EZ (red)

                      "You co-opting words of KV only thickens the scent of your BS. A thief and a putter-on of airs most foul. " JEEPRUSTY

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                        #12
                        Thank you Dave! You really helped me out - great pics. As it works out, I drive within a mile of the Chicago area McMaster Carr warehouse on my way home from work everyday.

                        I'm seeing 13/16" OD on your pics; But as the Irish carpenters I used to work with would say - What's a 1/16 of an inch in a big country like this?
                        -1980 GS1100 LT
                        -1975 Honda cb750K
                        -1972 Honda cl175
                        - Currently presiding over a 1970 T500

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                          #13
                          First off, they are head NUTS! Second, you need to get the stock SUZUKI orings as they are designed for the heat they will get. Third, put some grease around them when you re-install the nuts. Clean the hole they come out of very good before re-installation. Take out & replace ONE AT A TIME so you don't affect the head torque. 90% of the 16 valve 1100 head leaks are those 2 orings! Ray.

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                            #14
                            Viton O-rings will withstand the heat, but small dimensional differences between the OE parts and aftermarket may result in leaks.

                            Instead of using that photo to size the O-ring I'd measure the ID in the hole and OD at the base of the groove and then see what kind of O-rings you can come up with. You want a small amount of stretch to install the O-ring into the groove, and also some crush when the nut is installed.
                            Ed

                            To measure is to know.

                            Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                            Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                            Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                            KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by rapidray View Post
                              First off, they are head NUTS!
                              I stand corrected - they look nothing like bolts. Just typing and not thinking. Too many small blocks I guess.

                              Viton O-rings will withstand the heat, but small dimensional differences between the OE parts and aftermarket may result in leaks.

                              Instead of using that photo to size the O-ring I'd measure the ID in the hole and OD at the base of the groove and then see what kind of O-rings you can come up with. You want a small amount of stretch to install the O-ring into the groove, and also some crush when the nut is installed.
                              I agree, I should get Nut (almost wrote bolt again) off and measure.
                              I can bring them too a industrial supplier around the corner and see if they could match them up in viton - which I'm sure they could. Or I could, as Ray said, just go to the Suzuki dealer and spend a mere $2.
                              -1980 GS1100 LT
                              -1975 Honda cb750K
                              -1972 Honda cl175
                              - Currently presiding over a 1970 T500

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