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    Moto Viz to get more out of your SSPB

    EDIT: Why would you want to use a Moto Viz over any of the other available offerings. The Moto Viz will be more reliable because it can fail and the brakes and the headlamp will continue to operate as normal. The Headlamp modulator is based on sending a composite control signal to the SSPB headlamp cutout function. So if it fails, the headlamp just reverts back to no disabled. The SSPB has been designed to delive power to teh headlamps and is very reliable and that reliability is not reduced in any way by teh external modulation of the SSPB by the Moto Viz. You will need to check if you HID can tolerate the modulation. In testing of a new 55W HID I see no reason so far why it will not. Standard H-4 bulbs will certainly be compatible. The Moto Viz will allow you to adjust the setting (within legal limits) so that your combination of lights can be modulated the way you want.

    The Brake modulator will have similar design features, in that the Moto Viz tail, will by default failure revert back to normal brake light operation. I'm am not sure that the $3 brake modulator from China will do that. The Moto Viz is also fully compatible with LED,HID or Incandescent bulbs.


    OK I said I would be introducing some "plans" for new products; this one is pretty straight forward and I want to gauge interest and support before committing to it.

    The name is Moto Viz so that you can enhance your Motorcycle Vizibility and therefore your survivability on the road.

    There are a lot of product on the market that are very much related, so to even consider doing this I need to add all of the bells and whistles with all the flexibility that most of the other products are trying to achieve and hopefully do it better and at cheaper cost (at least for the time being).

    This one could have taken on several forms and I have wrestled with it for the last couple of weeks. But in the end to keep it simpler, I have settled on a version that leverages the SSPB. Although tying one product to another product could be viewed as limiting, the fact of the matter is that if this does get popular it will be knocked off, so it is better to do something that supports the SSPB and allows owners to get more utility from their SSPB investments. So if you already have one or plan on getting a SSPB, then the Moto Viz is well suited improve your survival rate on the roads. We are fining that once the O/R circuit gets past the ignition switch, fuse block and the right hand connectors , you actually can get a good voltage to your headlamps with minimal voltage lose. Therefore there really is no need for further relays and the SSPB can be used to do modulation with these advanced feature. I don't plan on integrating this into the SSPB as it would take too many more wires and it is best left separate from the SSPB.

    I only have a preliminary design at the moment, no schematic, no layouts and no software. However, I probably will have some available in 2-3 months as I work on some other projects. At the moment I figure these should be competitive at $99.

    So again this will be a poll to see what peoples opinions are.





    14
    I don't have a SSPB and don't plan on getting one.
    35.71%
    5
    I like the SSPB, but I ride like I'm invisible so I don't need no increased Viz
    7.14%
    1
    I'm interested in the SSPB but I already have modulators.
    14.29%
    2
    I have a SSPB and I might consider a Moto Viz.
    28.57%
    4
    I have a SSPB and I want a Moto Viz.
    14.29%
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    Last edited by posplayr; 03-17-2014, 03:27 PM.

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        #4
        Cool stuff Pos!

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          #5
          I need a new poll option: I plan on getting a SSPB in the future, and will strongly consider ordering a MotoViz at the same time.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Griffyn View Post
            I need a new poll option: I plan on getting a SSPB in the future, and will strongly consider ordering a MotoViz at the same time.
            You should be able to pick multiple options, 3 and 4 would seem to fit for your situation.

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              Wow it is pure apathy or what, I gave more options to say I don't want one than I probably shoudl have and still only one negative response.


              Don't people know that your biggest danger in riding a bike (beyond your own screw ups) is the cager that pulls in front of you because they don't see you. An irritating blinking HID should get their attention enough to avoid running you down.

              I have noticed the local motorcycle cops here in Tuscon are sporting headlamp modulators. Also why no interest in brake modulators unless you think it is going to fail some how?

              I ordered one of these to use with my LED's until I can get a Moto Vis produced. I can review it later after I get one.




              Here is a cheap headlamp modulator, but of course it is ilegal as it doe not have teh DOT required auto off.



              his one says it is legal, looks like a no frills modulator.



              This one is more full featured and the one I made sure all of it's features are included in the Moto Viz.



              For a brake modulator, this one almost seems over the top, but then again people might want all the bells and whistles. The add alludes to the fact that it is also using deceleration. The Moto Viz will have an optional input for SPEED. This could be the Reed switch signal for your TSCU and would work fine. This gives a very easily determined signal when you are slowing down and will activate the brakes. No trying to determine deceleration from a noise and vibration inundated accelerator.

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                  #9
                  My Answer is as close as i could get to what i wanted to say.

                  I will get a SSPB, im interested in the Motoviz.

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                    Originally posted by Griffyn View Post
                    I need a new poll option: I plan on getting a SSPB in the future, and will strongly consider ordering a MotoViz at the same time.
                    yep, this ....... ( only 1 vote allowed so I went with 3)

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                      Cool stuff, retail is $450+

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                        #12
                        Looks like it might actually work.

                        Here I used a Sig Gen to drive a SSPB which modulated the voltage to the HID. I will need to get a light meter to test it but it would appear that the period and duty cycle can be set to make a legal HID modulator at least for this DDM HID.

                        The light measure the will measure the peak to trough variation duty cycle as well as the depth of the trough relative to peak. The is a pretty big legal range so even though the HID is technically harder to meet spec, I think there will be a legal solution.


                        Demo of a 4Hz (statutory) blink rate at 15% duty cycle driving a DDM 55W H/L HID bulb
                        Last edited by posplayr; 03-26-2014, 06:08 PM.

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