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1980 gs850 wont run with pods???

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When i put pods on my bike it wont run properly its like it cuts off the air or something anyone know a fix
 
Hi oxcadillacxo.

Welcome to the forum.

The very short answer is put the airbox and filter back on.

Sorry.

You see a motorcycle is a complex machine with a lot of compromises made by the design team.

The carbs are jetted so the restriction of the air filter and the restriction of the exhaust pipes are compensated and give you a good product.

If you change one, the other or both you have a different bike.

You can't make a better bike by just changing stuff. Sorry.

You need to rejet your carbs and do what Suzuki already did with years (Decades) of expertise.

Perhaps a member will chime in and tell you what jets to use. IDK.
It's above me to try. My bike is stock.
 
Did you saw-all off the mufflers too?:-k
 
For starters: Have you adjusted the valves, cleaned the carbs? Stock exhaust? Which brand/type of air filters? What is the altitude range that you will be riding in? What is your location?
 
Stock exhaust carbs are clean valves are adjusted dont know the elevation and im in nc bike was running pods when i bought it. After further inspection it looks like the pods are blocking the holes in the carbs which is restricting air flow which in turn is causing it to bog when accelerating... taking the pods off and covering the carbs with a shop rag she runs great :-k
 
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When I replaced the stock air box on my '82 1100e with APE pods (K&N knockoffs), it barely ran. To make it usable until I could get it re-jetted, I taped over about 90% of the filters (see upside down photo).

She ran very fast, but hot like that. (She's properly jetted, electrical tape is off the filters now.)
 

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Are they the cheap pods on CV carbs? Have a look at the inside of the pod where it clamps to the carb. See that big ridge? It blocks the air passage to the slide diaphragm.

Buy K&N's or UniFliters if you must use pods, but your bike will run better all round with an air box.
 
:-\\\if you needed to ask this question, then the answer, again, is in my signature ..
 
Rob S. said:
When I replaced the stock air box on my '82 1100e with APE pods (K&N knockoffs), it barely ran. To make it usable until I could get it re-jetted, I taped over about 90% of the filters (see upside down photo).

She ran very fast, but hot like that. (She's properly jetted, electrical tape is off the filters now.)
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Good way to ruin the engine
 
hillsy said:
Are they the cheap pods on CV carbs? Have a look at the inside of the pod where it clamps to the carb. See that big ridge? It blocks the air passage to the slide diaphragm.

Buy K&N's or UniFliters if you must use pods, but your bike will run better all round with an air box.
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Thats what is wrong I found out last night but I dont have the money for k&n filters or a stock air box and i wanna ride Ill figure something out
 
hillsy said:
. See that big ridge? It blocks the air passage to the slide diaphragm.
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Huh???

The only "air passage to the slide diaphragm" is up through the center of the slide.

If you are talking about the vent that is at the top of the intake throat, that is the air intake for the "choke". It will have nothing to do with how the bike runs when it is warmed up and off "choke".

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hillsy said:
Are they the cheap pods on CV carbs? Have a look at the inside of the pod where it clamps to the carb. See that big ridge? It blocks the air passage to the slide diaphragm.

Buy K&N's or UniFliters if you must use pods, but your bike will run better all round with an air box.
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Yup, sure enough, some of the cheaper air filters block the air jet. You could cut out a notch so that it gets some air... :-\\\
 
oxcadillacxo said:
Thats what is wrong I found out last night but I dont have the money for k&n filters or a stock air box and i wanna ride Ill figure something out
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Put the bike on Craigslist now


You don't want to give the bike what it needs and you'll just fry the motor riding it now

What else have you neglected on the bike?
 
I wouldnt sell it, but I wouldnt ride it either. I'm facing a similar problem right now and the LAST thing you want to do is ride the bike when its not tuned properly, You'll just fry the motor and end up with a bike you cant sell OR ride...

The best alternative is to get a factory airbox and watch all of your problems disappear! Get on ebay and see if you can track one down. This will also be a cheaper alternative than K&N's ~Good luck!
 
After you have cleared an opening for the air to flow through the channels on the back of those carbs with those filters, install some 120 or 122.5 main jets and adjust the fuel/air screws.
Also, on the cheap pods, you need to glue the rubber boots to the air filters (Super Weatherstrip Adhesive works a treat) so that they don't spin on the mounts AND allow dirty air to enter.
See how that works. ;)
 
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