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85 GS1150...Paint supplier

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Hey Folks...
Getting ready to freshen up my 85 and I want to find correct paint for the bike. It appears to be a pearlescent color with a very fine metalflake in it.
Not the sort of thing that the local auto paint store might have.
Anyone know of a source of correct paints for these bikes???
 
hcritz said:
Hey Folks...
Getting ready to freshen up my 85 and I want to find correct paint for the bike. It appears to be a pearlescent color with a very fine metalflake in it.
Not the sort of thing that the local auto paint store might have.
Anyone know of a source of correct paints for these bikes???
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As far as I know, 85 1150's only came in red/black and blue/white. Neither of them was metalflake. Are you sure the bike has not already been repainted?

Earl
 
Color-rite sells paint for motorcycles. You might want to talk to them. Another solution is to take a sample piece to an automotive paint store and have them match the color. I've done this several times to match colors, including the pearl white paint on my '83 750ES - tri color paint, and it turned out perfectly.

Regarding the 1150 paint, I think some of the colors are metalic.
 
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Yep...mine is a very fine metalflake/pearl paint and appears to be factory.
There's no evidence of any repaint and the bike doesn't appear to have been messed with.
The aftermarket fairing was painted to match...it's close, but doesn't have the pearlescent effect in it.
 
Allright, what are you cats hiding... The year only goes back to '86 and it is only listed for Honda.

This is in regards to the color-rite link.
 
hcritz said:
Hey Folks...
Getting ready to freshen up my 85 and I want to find correct paint for the bike. It appears to be a pearlescent color with a very fine metalflake in it.
Not the sort of thing that the local auto paint store might have.
Anyone know of a source of correct paints for these bikes???
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Get the color codes from your Suzuki Dealer or from the microfische. Take the codes to a paint store that sells PPG or Spies Hecker. They will have the formula and be able to mix up what you need.

I don't have the formula for the red 1150, but here is the formula for the blue and white '85 1150 if anyone needs it:

Suzuki 12f candy alpine blue metallic (Spies Hecker)
formula for 1 litre.

base color:-
mb593=548.8 grams
mb591=793.8 grams
mb554= 931 grams
mb799=965.3 grams
mb502=978.1 grams

2nd stage:-
mb299=907.2 grams
mb555=918.6 grams
mb593=919.7 grams

Suzuki 22r cool white pearl (PPG code)
main layer:-
D753=1231.7 grams
D778=1234.7 grams
D756=1237.7 grams
D794=1238.7 grams

2ndcoat; tinted clearcoat:-
D895=874.5 grams
D954=925.9 grams

Suzuki 019 black (spies Hecker)
HG902= 1072.1 grams

All formula's are to make 1 litre, all weights are cumulative


 
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I don't have the formula for the red 1150, but here is the formula for the blue and white '85 1150 if anyone needs it:



Well son of a gun, it IS metallic. Sure couldnt see any in my red/black 1150 and I am certain the paint on it was original.

Earl
 
Hey Earl...
I'm thinking maybe it's more of a pearlescent than metalflake...but there's definitely something in the there the glitters a bit.
I'll talk to my Dupont and PPG folks here and see what they can come up with. I like to shoot the Dupont better than the PPG.
Thanks for all the responses...
 
hcritz said:
Hey Earl...
I'm thinking maybe it's more of a pearlescent than metalflake...but there's definitely something in the there the glitters a bit.
I'll talk to my Dupont and PPG folks here and see what they can come up with. I like to shoot the Dupont better than the PPG.
Thanks for all the responses...
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Yes, it's a pearl. The red is called "Pearl twinkle red" by Suzuki
 
Unfortunately to match the original paint it is a three stage job, base coat, colour coat & top coat. You will have a difficult time matching it.
BTW it does contain metal flake, mica flake & pearl.

Dink
 
Dink said:
Unfortunately to match the original paint it is a three stage job, base coat, colour coat & top coat. You will have a difficult time matching it.
BTW it does contain metal flake, mica flake & pearl.

Dink
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Any auto paint store worth a dam* can match the paint easily. They do this kind of thing for a living so let them work.
 
Nessism said:
Any auto paint store worth a dam* can match the paint easily. They do this kind of thing for a living so let them work.
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If you do not apply the components in the correct order and in the right thickness, the finishes will not match. The paint store can supply the correct components if you have the paint numbers. That is 50% of the solution. If you dont have the paint numbers, good luck. The other 50% is your skill with them.

Actually, the best result I ever had with a paint store and their "matching" without the original paint numbers, was a color that was reasonably close. Meaning, if I was repainting a complete assembly, I could get by with their "match". If i needed to spot in a touch up, they were of no use at all. (I painted for 30 years or so)

Earl
 
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earlfor said:
If you do not apply the components in the correct order and in the right thickness, the finishes will not match. The paint store can supply the correct components if you have the paint numbers. That is 50% of the solution. If you dont have the paint numbers, good luck. The other 50% is your skill with them.

Earl
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You don't need the paint numbers, just give the guy a side cover or gas tank and they will match off that. The color match won't be perfect enough to do a spot repair, but it will be fine for a complete repaint or if the parts are not touching each other.

Motorcycle paint typically does not sell in enough quantity for the major automotive paint manufactures to bother to develop formulas. Instead, they just leave it up to the local paint shops to match, or if necessary, they can call for help from the technical rep for the paint they sell. Color formulas are only starting points anyway. You still need a sample part to match against so the paint formula can be tweaked to match the actual part.
 
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Nessism said:
You don't need the paint numbers, just give the guy a side cover or gas tank and they will match off that. The color match won't be perfect enough to do a spot repair, but it will be fine for a complete repaint or if the parts are not touching each other.




yeah, i cant remember how many times i spent a whole day doing test patches and "adjusting" to get the paint stores match to actually match. LOL

Earl
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Nessism said:
Motorcycle paint typically does not sell in enough quantity for the major automotive paint manufactures to bother to develop formulas.
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This is a complete and utter lie!!! the motorcycle manufacturer hand out the paint formulas as they mix them!!! I have worked in auto repair for the last 13 years, and have researched it in almost every brand; but not all of them. The paint codes are in the databases that are given to every panel beater, you just need to know how to find them.

Dink
 
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