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Bleeding issues

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i hooked up a hose to the rear bleeder valve, and would loosen the valve and press the pedal to bleed the brakes. it was working well except for the fact that i used almost an entire bottle of brake fluid and the fluid in the hose still came out brown. has anyone had a problem like this before? im new to all of this. and this is the first time ive ever had to bleed brakes so with my limited knowledge, im stumped!
 
Did you start with sucking out or using some paper towels to absorb as much of the old fluid before you started?
Use brake cleaner and towels to scrub out any debris that you started with?

Daniel
 
i did soak up some of old fluid from the reservoir with a shop rag, then added new fluid
 
You really ought to look at replacing your lines if they haven't been touched in a while and then cleaning out that master cylinder.
 
I just did some brakes on a 96 model bike that had been sitting for quite some time. First I disassembled the entire assembly including the pistons to get all the old stuff out. Then once all the old fluid was out and all put together, it still took a almost a bottle before it come out clean using a combination of vacuum pump and handle pumping. If you didn't disassemble then i can see it taking over a bottle.
 
id like to rebuild the calipers and get SS brake lines, but is this necessary? ive never dealt with brakes, are they difficult to rebuild?
 
this bikes going to take me across the country this summer so i might as well while im at it. is there a good tutorial u know of?
 
oh, and i can cross a few off of that list, i got new orings for the carbs, new intake orings and fasteners, carb gaskets, now im working on the valves, changing the oil, and tackling the brakes. everything else is sound i tihnk, though i dont know about the wiring. i rode it for 20 mintues then started rebuilding it becasue these pa winters are pretty long
 
ya gotta tell us more about ur trip when it happens. I have similar dreams.
 
Hoggystyle said:
id like to rebuild the calipers and get SS brake lines, but is this necessary? ive never dealt with brakes, are they difficult to rebuild?
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Easy to rebuild

Did you download the factory service manual in your Megawelcome?
 
i will definately keep you updated, and with plenty of pictures along the way! theres lots of open road to explore. i'd like to go to colorado, most of my family lives out there. i used to work as a delivery driver when i lived in Colorado Springs and got a taste for mountain roads. should be loads more fun on a bike rather than a 35 foot flatbed:D i bought a clymer manual before i registered to this forum, wish i had known beforehand that i could download one for free, but it is nice to have a book in front of me when i need it. one thing i might have trouble with is removing the pistons, i dont have an air compressor. any easy way to do this without one?
 
A couple of flat-bladed screwdrivers can work if you have something to use as a fulcrum. I couldn't do the air on my older 550 ones but did on the Ninjas. If you can use air, just watch where things are pointed.
 
Welcome to another PA member! Just got back on the forums after a break and noticed your thread. Your boss has a shop? Can you do the caliper there on lunchbreak? It's a pain to get the piston out without a compressor, and only about 30 seconds work with one. For a tutorial on caliper rebuild here is the one from Basscliff's site

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?p=1564207#post1564207
 
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born and raised! my boss has a bike shop, but its a separate business. we install windows outs of state for government housing, but he owns the shop on the side. i helped him clean up and start renovations but it is about 15 miles away and i dont have a car anymore so i wouldnt be able to drive back and forth to work on the bike. ill figure something out tho, can always ask my neighbors i suppose. where do you guys get the right SS brake lines with the right bends on the connectors?
 
Thats a shame. I seriously don't advise this but when i am absolutely stuck i have used large vicegrips and a screwdriver. If you know you are going to replace the piston, a $25 part from boulevard suzuki, then have it it, otherwise take your time and go easy. As far as the line goes, do a search for custom brake line: this is a great thread by nessism,

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=114521&highlight=Custom+brake+line

Or, do a search for gs450 brake line on ebay, and you will find a company called rennsport who will make you one custom for about $36 shipped. I can vouch for the line as I just put one on my gs450e. It was a tad long and the tubing is narrower than stock but it works well, and it's black for that stock look. Follow their measurement instructions and it's all good. As far as all other replacement parts I have followed advice on here and gone suzuki parts only. Boulevard has good prices.
 
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i wish i could find a way to the shop, it would be a great experience, even the constant flak i would get for not owning a Harley :cool: Alright, ill start the rebuild this week, get measurements and start sourcing some SS lines. ive found that RonAyers.com is a good place to get oem parts, they seem very reasonably priced. though ebay sometimes has some great deal on OEM parts. Actually i sold a Rifle Scope on Ebay that is sourcing this rebuild entirely! gotta love ebay
 
alright so i got the calipers off, but wont be able to strip them dow until i can get to my bosses shop where i can use a vice to get the allen head pins out. i just ordered a piston seal, dust boot, orings for the pin, and piston boots so i can do the front caliper in one go. i am looking into Earls homemade SS brake lines, but have a few questions. for the front brakes, i have one caliper. under the headlight there is a cylinder where the 2 lines connect, can i remove this and run one continuous line up the the reservoir? or is this the MC? i took the cap off the reservoir and the rubber looks fine, but is there anything i need to replace on the front besides the lines and the caliper internals?
 
loosely rebolt the calipers on the forks and break the allen heads loose letting the forks act as your vice.
 
ahhh, thats a great idea! thank you! i would have never even thought of that
 
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