I got my "M" today !

[toejams1]

MSF in Ohio

MSF in Ohio

MSF course only $20 in Ohio. I took it in September and got my endorsement. We were told that the funding comes from the course fee and the cost of the temp permit (around $30 if I remember), and then of course we have to get our license with the endorsement on it which is another $20-30. So basically the class in Ohio is very cheap, but they are hiding some of the costs in other areas. Still well worth the $.

The course was 4 hours in classroom and two 4 hours days on the bike. I asked the instructor what was involved with the Experienced riders course, and they said basically it was the exact same thing, only on your bike and not the state's.

 

[pontiacstogo]

MSF course is free in PA.

 

[mighty13d]

Wow, sounds alot easier than NJ, well sort of.....

In NJ, according to what i've read on the NJ website, you're not even allowed to RIDE with a learners permit, unless there is someone there WITH you, that has a valid motorcycle license!

So i guess you're supposed to just bug the hell out of your buddy to come tag along with you, every time you want to practice....
What if you dont even KNOW anybody with a M license? Now what!?

This doesn't sound right?

Any riders from NJ that got their licenses here?

That's not safe at all! In Maine you can not have anyone ride with you when you have your permit. You have to wear a helmet and you can't ride after dark. You can get your permit when you only have your learner's permit for the normal Class C driver's license too though so you can get it when you're 15 and ride around before you're allowed to drive around. I guess they figure you're less like to cause collateral damage on a bike that in a car!


and I'm moving to PA for a while. Get a free course there! haha:clap:

 

[1_v8_merc]

That's not safe at all! In Maine you can not have anyone ride with you when you have your permit. You have to wear a helmet and you can't ride after dark. You can get your permit when you only have your learner's permit for the normal Class C driver's license too though so you can get it when you're 15 and ride around before you're allowed to drive around. I guess they figure you're less like to cause collateral damage on a bike that in a car!


and I'm moving to PA for a while. Get a free course there! haha:clap:

Yep, PA is a good state....i believe you take your learners test THEN pay your $10......where-as here in NJ, you pay $5 THEN take your test, so they keep your cash either way.....

Plus in PA, you can actually RIDE on a learners permit unsupervised, as long as you hold a current drivers license and are over 18 or 21(cant remember which age limit is correct) Provided you have no passengers and don't ride after dark.

NJ sucks so bad, i have no idea why anyone would voluntarily live here, it could break off and fall into the ocean for all I care!(as long as I get out first! haha)

 

[DanTheMan]

Actually both NJ and NY state require riders on learner's permits have a fully licensed rider on their own seperate motorcycle ride with the permit rider at all times.

In MN, no permits are issued to the 16-18 riders unless they first have a valid driver's license and second take the MSF BRC. All permit riders regardless of age are required to wear helmets, can't ride on freeways or limited access divided highways, can't carry passengers or ride after dark. A successful weekend BRC nets the license endorsement for the participant, except for the 16-18 riders who just take their course completion materials to the DMV, pay for their permit, then take the riding test at the testing facility.

 

[Larry D]

My only question is.....

What is that fully licensed rider on a seperate motorcycle going to do to help a permitted rider ?

I suposse just riding along with someone more experienced will help but, in a true critical situation, you're still "on your own". Silly law.

 

[tkent02]

It gives them someone else to ticket, more revenue.