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Odd electrical phenomenon

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I agree with red, sounds like a design flaw.
 
I am a ford technician and some of these things the engineers come up with. If they live their life the way they design you would think they would be peeing on their legs saying it was the proper draining path and such... Most of the time i have talked to an engineer they ask me what my thoughts are on it when i was calling them for theirs.
 
twiggy2cents said:
I am a ford technician and some of these things the engineers come up with. If they live their life the way they design you would think they would be peeing on their legs saying it was the proper draining path and such... Most of the time i have talked to an engineer they ask me what my thoughts are on it when i was calling them for theirs.
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There are good engineers, and there are bad ones. And even good people make mistakes now and again. Design flaws tend to be visible since they occur on every part produced; like living in a glass house as they say.

Asking an experienced technician what they are seeing in the real world is the sign of a good engineer - communication is a tool that should be used. It would be far worse for the engineer to sit behind his cad screen and block out everything else.
 
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twiggy2cents said:
I am a ford technician and some of these things the engineers come up with. If they live their life the way they design you would think they would be peeing on their legs saying it was the proper draining path and such... Most of the time i have talked to an engineer they ask me what my thoughts are on it when i was calling them for theirs.
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My question about being in marketing was a joke. Those guys (in my company anyway) like to spin data. I thought it was a good spin that you turned this into something to prevent hydrolock. We can debate if it would or not (I doubt it), but it was good spin nevertheless.
 
Nessism said:
There are good engineers, and there are bad ones. And even good people make mistakes now and again. Design flaws tend to be visible since they occur on every part produced; like living in a glass house as they say.

Asking an experienced technician what they are seeing in the real world is the sign of a good engineer - communication is a tool that should be used. It would be far worse for the engineer to sit behind his cad screen and block out everything else.
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True on all counts.
 
yeah i guess your right but the engineers i am talking about are hotline engineers that are supposed to help you when you have no clue whats going on with the concern. But either way we need them since i wouldnt want to be the one designing the car
 
twiggy2cents said:
yeah i guess your right but the engineers i am talking about are hotline engineers that are supposed to help you when you have no clue whats going on with the concern. But either way we need them since i wouldnt want to be the one designing the car
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Automobiles have become quite complex. There are over 50 uProcessors, 100 sensors, and 30 electrical subsystems in a mid-sized car.

Very advanced tools are now a requirement to allow engineers to integrate these systems. You not only need to look at nominal operating conditions, but worst case, stress, and fault conditions. During power up scenarios electronic systems can exhibit strange behavior (as evidenced by this example). Lock out circuitry should be used to keep the outputs from being enabled before the internal electronics have a chance to reset.

When these devices were designed they likely did it without the aid of circuit design tools and never anticipated this scenatio. I'm not passing judgement, just stating what is most probable (IMHO that is).
 
Or maybe they did it on purpose thinking it was funny to zap everyone once they had our money.
 
twiggy2cents said:
yeah i guess your right but the engineers i am talking about are hotline engineers that are supposed to help you when you have no clue whats going on with the concern. But either way we need them since i wouldnt want to be the one designing the car
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What car company are we talking about?
 
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tkent02 said:
Or maybe they did it on purpose thinking it was funny to zap everyone once they had our money.
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That's the assumption I'm operating under.
High performance... even when you don't want it.
 
I guess you learn something everyday. My Kaw 900 does the same thing, I never noticed it until I installed the Dyna-S. Now its all making sense, and I didn't have to burn the weed with granny.
 
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