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pods vs. stock air filter

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which would be better for performance, or is it more of a look when it comes to this... and what do pods normally run for a 82 1100gl?

or is it more of a look than a performance enhancer with the pods?
 
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lots of opinions on this one, but pods will yeild better performance.

do a search and you will see lots of threads about this...

K&N pods will run you probably over $100 for 4 of them, other companies like emgo or ape make them for far less....
 
I kept the stock box on my GL because of the chrome dress up. I also realize that if I needed to run harder/faster I would just go buy an E.
 
Pods for better speed etc

Airbox for safety of your carbs.

Suzuki mad
 
Lot is personal preference. Pods do increase performance, with a good 4 into 1 the number usually thrown around is 8% or so horsepower increase. Another advantage is I can have my carbs totally off my bike in 5 minutes and about that long to put them back on. That being said, even with a jet kit it can be a bit of a pain to get them dialed in.
 
The cost of getting max horsepower out of an engine by going to less restrictive exhaust, larger carbs, pods, and increased time and amount of valve opening is a loss of low and midrange torque.
 
From the the info I've gleened in this fourm, it seems to me most people run pods to improve performance however, if performance is the key then changing over to a 4-1 exhaust is the main modification for that.

IMO, I wouldn't bother with the expense of pods, coupled with the bother of re-jetting & tweaking the carbs IF is wasn't cahning th exhaust over at the same time.

My 1100G (all stock) is plenty fast - I agree with Mr. 82Shafty, if you want more zip, then ditch the shaft & get E model
 
Lot of people (me included) just think they look cool as well. I'd run them just for the ease of carb access and the look if I didn't get any performance boost. Again, personal preference.
 
mdole said:
The cost of getting max horsepower out of an engine by going to less restrictive exhaust, larger carbs, pods, and increased time and amount of valve opening is a loss of low and midrange torque.
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I agree it makes a bit worse (unless you have a very expensive custom exhaust) a problem these bikes have already. I don't have crap for power until about 3500 and it doesn't really start to pull until about 4000 to 4500 but then it's you better hang on all the way to redline.
 
aruyle79 said:
which would be better for performance, or is it more of a look when it comes to this... and what do pods normally run for a 82 1100gl?

or is it more of a look than a performance enhancer with the pods?
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It is pretty much agreed that pods will perform better, but only if your performance is defined by power and speed. To me, performance is daily driveability, and an airbox fills the bill for me.

As noted in some of the posts above, even the looks aspect is subjective. Some like the pleated filters showing, possibly with the chrome ends on them, others like the stock airbox with its chrome trim.

Cost? I could not find an actual cost, but I am sure that 80GS7850 is correct that quality K&N filters will be well over $100 and Emgo or similar filters are much less. The difference is that K&N are cleanable and reuseable, while the others have to be thrown away and replaced when they get too dirty. If you plan on riding a LOT, the more expensive (to purchase) K&N filters might end up being cheaper to use.

Me? I have what I consider the best of both. I use K&N filter elements in the stock airbox. I get some of the performance benefits with a freer-breathing element with the protection and extra chrome (and quite) of the stock airbox.

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The cost of getting max horsepower out of an engine by going to less restrictive exhaust, larger carbs, pods, and increased time and amount of valve opening is a loss of low and midrange torque.
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Amen Mike. But let's not start another debate. There's a squillion posts on this one, with an even number supporting the pros and cons.
Road machines require good bottom and mid range response. This is what's termed 'good tractability'. Strong midrange torque is 'where it's at'.
 
For me, I do not like loud motorcycles and stock/stock fills that bill. If I want more power I will look at adding more displacement more cam and CR maybe more port work/bigger carbs. Dan
 
i have put pods on both the GS's I have owned.

i also swapped to 4-1 exhausts and i have had no issues jetting with the help of the guys on this forum
 
Dan Ruddock said:
For me, I do not like loud motorcycles and stock/stock fills that bill. If I want more power I will look at adding more displacement more cam and CR maybe more port work/bigger carbs. Dan
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Wow, thats probably the first time I have seen the stock airbox & exhaust used in conjunction with all the mods listed in your sig....usually the intake & exhaust are the first items to be changed. I am currently running the K&N replacement filter in the air box...works well enough. I have a set of 36mm Gixxer Mikunis to try on though, & those will require pods.

Tony.
 
aruyle79 said:
which would be better for performance, or is it more of a look when it comes to this... and what do pods normally run for a 82 1100gl?
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I have a brand new set of 4 EMGO pods that I have not used, that I planned on listing soon.... you (or anyone else here) can have them for $25.00..they have the chrome ends, pictured here...I believe these are washable....somebody please correct me if that's wrong.
http://www.kzrider.com/archive/images/public/img-1095907948.jpg

Tony.
 
well, i guess what im hearing, is that it will increase performance where speed is concerned, but will cost me torque in the end. my whole issue and why im asking, is that i don't have the stock air box, carbs, or manifold. bought the 1100 without carbs, manifold, exhaust, starter, and a misc, of other items. that is why im asking. but i don't think i want to lose the torque. i am looking at a set of 1100 E carbs that are dyno jetted, and a manifold from mkenzie, so that would take care of that stuff, and if they will fit, 4-1 exhaust of off a 750L. but its worth a try i guess if your gonna get rid of those pods tony.
 
The Dynojet kit in the E carbs is the wrong kit for your G. Sixteen valve (E) and eight valve (G) have different fuel needs. The jet needles are different and the main jet is much larger.
 
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so i could use the E model carbs but would need to rejett them right?
 
The carbs for the 16 valves and the 8 valves are different. The main air jet is different. If you were buying the carbs for the Dynojet kit it is wrong. You wll still need to get the Dynojet kit made for your bike. Using them stock won't work either because of the different main air jet and they are pressed into the carb bodies.
 
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