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    Accident Scene Managment Class

    On Sunday July 18 2010 I was riding in a small group and the lead rider went down. He and his passenger sustained serious injuries. Medical personnel were on the scene quickly but I was of little to no use in the situation.

    Then again on June 11 2011 I was riding in a group when the lead rider went down. He also sustained serious injury. Again, medical personnel were on the scene quickly in spite of our being in a pretty remote location. And again I was of little use in this situation.

    So, these events got me wondering what I should do in a road-side emergency like a motorcycle wreck. I had a lot of questions:
    * Should I administer CPR (as if I knew CPR)
    * Should the wounded be moved?
    * Should I leave helmets on or take them off?
    * Should I treat any injuries? And if so, with what?
    * What should I do between the time of the accident and when medical personnel arrive?
    * Are there any legal issues associated with helping someone in situations like this?
    * And most importantly for me, is there any way I can feel less useless in these situations?

    Turns out all these questions and more are answered in Accident Scene Management's "A Crash Course For The Motorcyclist".
    Join our mission to reduce injuries and fatalities to motorcyclists. Learn what to do at the scene of a motorcycle crash until professional help arrives.


    The course was created by a motorcyclist and RN/EMT named Vicki Roberts-Sanfelipo to address the exact issues I was having. The class I took was taught by Vicki and co-instructed by her husband Tony who is also a motorcyclist and a motorcycle accident scene investigator for a law firm.

    The class is offered in two levels: Basic and Advanced. I only took Basic but I will take Advanced at some point in the future.

    The Basic Class is 8 hours long and covers how to:
    1. Identify how to Prevent Further Injury
    2. Assess the Situation and Gather information for the EMS
    3. Effectively Contact the EMS
    4. Treat the Injured in a Logical Manner using the ABCSS of Trauma
    5. Identify Other life Threatening injuries that can be treated at the scene
    6. Identify Common Environmental First Aid Problems requiring immediate care
    * Complete of the class also provides 6 CE credits that I guess mean something if you are a medical professional.

    My Review of the class:
    On Friday before the ASMI class I took the American Heart Association's CPR/First Aid training which I thought was very good. But according to ASMI: "When a trauma results in CPR the victim only has a 1% chance of survival. We must do everything we can to avoid getting to that point!!!"

    However, the class did cover specific CPR techniques, with hands on demonstrations and practice, of CPR techniques to use on motorcycle accident victims. Basically a way to open the airway without moving the neck so that you prevent further injury to the spine.

    I give this class an A+. There is a good mix of lecture and hands on practice of principles taught that could be important in these types of situations. There is a lot of good first aid information specific to the types of injuries that are most likely to happen to our brothers and sister if they wreck.

    The training is great but not of much use if you don't have some tools. ASMI provides lists of things to build small or large trauma packs. They also have some pre-assembled kits that they offer during the class and on their web site. I bought the smallest kit and added a few items to it that I thought would be useful.

    I left the class feeling much more confident in what to do in case, heaven forbid, I'm around when another motorcyclist crashes. I also left the class with a trauma kit that I will carry on my bike and in my car just in case.

    I highly recommend the class. If you are so inclined, go to their website and see if they offer a class near you. There is no down side to having this training.

    Cost for the class was $65 (there may have been a discount in that price due to the group that sponsored the class).

    Cost of the trauma kit I bought was $34 including the extra items I added to the smallest kit.

    Ride safe friends. I NEVER want to have to use this training.

    #2
    Good review, Greg.

    While I am trained in CPR/first aid, and do carry a first aid kit, I don't have the knowledge that is taught in this class.
    I wish I could have gone with you this past week...I still intend to go in the future.
    Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
    '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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      #3
      A traumatic arrest is basically a FDRT (found dead right there). One of the first things that you get taught as a medic is that if somebody arrests from a traumatic incident, you don't waste time on them and help those that still have a pulse.
      Then what is in the paper about a month later,a photo of my teacher doing CPR on a car accident casualty, he posted it in class as what not to do.

      If you want basic knowledge, start by taking a Standard First Aid class, it is a good beginning.

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        #4
        Sometimes the best thing you can do is just get down the road a bit and alert oncoming drivers and riders of the problem. I've done it a few times.

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          #5
          You might want to consider taking another course designed for back-country users - Wilderness First Aid Training. I have been re-certified several times now in Wilderness FA which covers everything from basic slivers to building shelters with tools-at-hand to keep someone protected while waiting for help to arrive. The FirstAid skills are all inclusive, there was stuff that I was trained to do that my father (first-aider, ambulance attendant, fireman) had never learned ...

          You can never have too much knowledge in helping others - make sure that those who you ride with regularly also have the knowledge to help you in case you are the one to go down.

          Thanks for your review, I will see if there is a course similar to the one you took to expand my knowledge as well.

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            #6
            Originally posted by NaeKid View Post
            You might want to consider taking another course designed for back-country users - Wilderness First Aid Training.
            Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds like it would be really good to know. A few of us were riding dual-sports in Big Bend National Park outside Terlingua TX (read, middle of fing nowhere) a few months ago. If the worst had happened we were miles and maybe hours from possible help.

            I would have felt a lot better with some Wilderness First Aid training. I'll look into it.

            So much to know...so little time.

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              #7
              Originally posted by gbw View Post
              Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds like it would be really good to know. A few of us were riding dual-sports in Big Bend National Park outside Terlingua TX (read, middle of fing nowhere) a few months ago. If the worst had happened we were miles and maybe hours from possible help.

              I would have felt a lot better with some Wilderness First Aid training. I'll look into it.

              So much to know...so little time.
              Have you had a chance to look-up a course? If not, I just did a quick search and found a couple of courses happening in the Texas-area this year ... about $200 for the course from NOLS (National Outdoor Leadership School) ..



              Hope it helps ya out!

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