When do you expect ev bikes to become practical road bikes.

[dorkburger]

Remember the Vespa shifting, that was sure different for me.

Probably like my rusty old scooter. Pull in the clutch, twist the grip to shift.

[dpep]

Well I have to admit I never saw this coming Hybrid cycles Ninja7.

I thought this will a waste of time but no, very promising, no range anxiety, non plugin, urban EV mode, and very quick, there's a lot of potential here. If Kawasaki is giving test rides to journalists can actual an production be far off? I may need to hold off buying a new bike I want to see how much $$$$ and when/if this Ninja7 will arrive.

https://www.revzilla.com/common-trea...%7C%20Combined

Very Interesting.

[argonsagas]

I will have to finish reading this interesting article about this interesting bike later. When I got to "paddle shifters on left cluster" I had to stop.

'Paddle' shifters everywhere. When a neighbor offered to let me drive his new convertible Corvette, what was I going to do, say, "no thanks"?

And I suppose it's a good thing the electric Ninja even has a manual shift option. Next thing you know, there'll be paddle shifters on guitars. What's next? Dishwashers? Toilet seats?

I suspect they may soon try them on canoes .

[Grimly]

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[Rob S.]

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[wyly]

The hybrid Kawasaki seems to be real I came across another review, it appears there will be a naked version and a Ninja. 0-60 time is supposedly in litre bike range, impressive for a 450cc with ev boost. Depending on price it could be a great urban commuter.

[Baatfam]

The hybrid Kawasaki seems to be real I came across another review, it appears there will be a naked version and a Ninja. 0-60 time is supposedly in litre bike range, impressive for a 450cc with ev boost. Depending on price it could be a great urban commuter.

I find I have no interest in hybrids. One of my favorite reasons for owning an EV of any type, is the lack of ICE maintenance.
Learned that lesson with our EGO mower. No oil, no gas, no spark plugs or carburetors or air cleaners.

At my age, and how far I ride, a Zero SR/F or SR/S should work out nicely.

BTW...I found this "review" of the 2023 Zero SR/F worth reading due him riding it for a week around Chicago, in the winter.
Lots of little details I found interesting.

2023 Zero Motorcycles SR/F Long-Term Ride Review

[wyly]

I find I have no interest in hybrids. One of my favorite reasons for owning an EV of any type, is the lack of ICE maintenance.
Learned that lesson with our EGO mower. No oil, no gas, no spark plugs or carburetors or air cleaners.

At my age, and how far I ride, a Zero SR/F or SR/S should work out nicely.

BTW...I found this "review" of the 2023 Zero SR/F worth reading due him riding it for a week around Chicago, in the winter.
Lots of little details I found interesting.

2023 Zero Motorcycles SR/F Long-Term Ride Review

Fair enough it's personal choice. I don't mind maintenance and I'm waaay old, currently putting my 1150 back together after a engine rebuild and complete electrical update.

It's whatever fits your lifestyle I was looking for an urban ride capable of highway day trips, but it has to be cost effective I have no idea what price point the Kz7 will come in at.

The Zero is fine choice but the lack of charging infrastructure and charge time makes it a no go for my 300km+ day trips, and it cost more than I'm willing to part with.

[dpep]

Honda will be offering (not until 2025) an E scooter with two swappable batteries on board. This looks to be very close to what I had in mind for a daily errand runner. It would be charged by my home solar system meaning a great part if not most of my day to day transportation would happen free of both the gas station and the grid.

https://www.rideapart.com/news/695802/would-buy-honda-sce-2025/

If some level of standardization can be achieved I could see the swappable battery changing the whole paradigm of personal transportation. That of course is a big "IF".

[rphillips]

I didn't see, or missed it in the article, 2 batt. on board. The way I read it one batt. at home charging while the other out discharging. Would figure that possible with any E bike... No doubt through evolution, the E bikes and autos will keep getting better and better until they're get to the point they're good enough for most everybody to get one, just hoping I'm still around when that time gets here.

[wyly]

Honda will be offering (not until 2025) an E scooter with two swappable batteries on board. This looks to be very close to what I had in mind for a daily errand runner. It would be charged by my home solar system meaning a great part if not most of my day to day transportation would happen free of both the gas station and the grid.

https://www.rideapart.com/news/695802/would-buy-honda-sce-2025/

If some level of standardization can be achieved I could see the swappable battery changing the whole paradigm of personal transportation. That of course is a big "IF".

It's already underway in Japan and likely all of SE Asia soon.

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2022/march/honda-kawasaki-yamaha-suzuki-eneos-gachaco-swappable-batteries

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/04/10/business/tech/ev-battery-swap-asia-adoption/

[wyly]

I didn't see, or missed it in the article, 2 batt. on board. The way I read it one batt. at home charging while the other out discharging. Would figure that possible with any E bike... No doubt through evolution, the E bikes and autos will keep getting better and better until they're get to the point they're good enough for most everybody to get one, just hoping I'm still around when that time gets here.

E scooters you can have now. Truly worry free ev motorcycles I think will come with solid state batteries and an improved infrastructure. Hybrids could fill that transitional gap.

[rphillips]

Not sure I read this right. 630 km (391 mi.) pr. month for a monthly subscription price of $ 849. The idea of all the bike batt. being interchangeable will make it much easier. Not sure about the stopping every 40 mi. though. Change a batt in only a minute sounds really good,...No doubt evolution coming alongand will get there.

[RichDesmond]

Not sure I read this right. 630 km (391 mi.) pr. month for a monthly subscription price of $ 849. The idea of all the bike batt. being interchangeable will make it much easier. Not sure about the stopping every 40 mi. though. Change a batt in only a minute sounds really good,...No doubt evolution coming alongand will get there.

$849 Taiwanese dollars. About $28 USD.

I don't think battery swapping will ever take off for cars or regular, full size motorcycles, but for scooters, e-bicycles and small motorcycles it makes some sense.

[wyly]

Not sure I read this right. 630 km (391 mi.) pr. month for a monthly subscription price of $ 849. The idea of all the bike batt. being interchangeable will make it much easier. Not sure about the stopping every 40 mi. though. Change a batt in only a minute sounds really good,...No doubt evolution coming alongand will get there.

40 mi range would easily take me to my work and back without recharge. A longer commute is possible if you can pop the battery out and recharge where you work.