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    Originally posted by themess View Post
    A niece who is a HS senior has no interest in getting a driver's license, and she is in metro LA! Motorcycling is heading toward being a niche market.
    Yes, but driving in metro LA sucks dog balls. Still, your point is taken. Many young people today don't care about cars and bikes, or anything that makes you look away from your phone. I have a 25 year old nephew who just bought a Prius. My 25 year old daughter just got her first full time job after 8 years of college. She bought a GTI with the 220 horse motor and the 6 speed manual. She acknowledges that the twin clutch automatic is quicker, but she says that the stick is more engaging.

    Mostly, she likes it because her friends don't know how to drive a car with three pedals down there.
    Last edited by 850 Combat; 02-17-2018, 02:45 AM.
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      Manual transmissions are almost gone. Cars with manuals used to be more reliable, lighter, less expensive, more responsive and use less fuel. As designs and materials have improved, and computer controls have integrated shifting with other engine controls, all of those advantages now favor automatics for most drivers in most circumstances. About 3/4 of my lifetime miles have been driven with manuals. Most likely, my current manual will be my last one. Eventually, motorcycles will get them, too.
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      “The greatest service this country could render the rest of the world would be to put its own house in order and to make of American civilization an example of decency, humanity, and societal success from which others could derive whatever they might find useful to their own purposes.” George Kennan

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        Originally posted by themess View Post
        Manual transmissions are almost gone. Cars with manuals used to be more reliable, lighter, less expensive, more responsive and use less fuel. As designs and materials have improved, and computer controls have integrated shifting with other engine controls, all of those advantages now favor automatics for most drivers in most circumstances. About 3/4 of my lifetime miles have been driven with manuals. Most likely, my current manual will be my last one. Eventually, motorcycles will get them, too.
        Except reliability. Aside from replacing clutches as a maintenance item, manuals remain more reliable than automatics.
        "Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
        ~Herman Melville

        2016 1200 Superlow
        1982 CB900f

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          I wouldn't know. My last car with an automatic was a 93 Sable. No problems with it. I just bought a 96 Astro, and its transmission needs to be rebuilt, but I suspect abuse.

          So, I'll take your word for it.
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          “The greatest service this country could render the rest of the world would be to put its own house in order and to make of American civilization an example of decency, humanity, and societal success from which others could derive whatever they might find useful to their own purposes.” George Kennan

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            Originally posted by themess View Post
            Manual transmissions are almost gone. Cars with manuals used to be more reliable, lighter, less expensive, more responsive and use less fuel. As designs and materials have improved, and computer controls have integrated shifting with other engine controls, all of those advantages now favor automatics for most drivers in most circumstances. About 3/4 of my lifetime miles have been driven with manuals. Most likely, my current manual will be my last one. Eventually, motorcycles will get them, too.
            I guess I'm the odd one out here. heh Until 2012 when I sold my truck and bought the Safari van from the wife when she wanted something new , I never owned a automatic vehicle. Most of my life, I only had Brit sports cars. I don't think bikes are going anywhere. I see a lot more on the road now than I did in my early riding years.
            Komorebi-The light filtering through the trees.

            I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself than be crowded on a velvet cushion. H.D.T.

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              Here ya go. http://www.pipeburn.com/home/2018/03...rs-review.html. Suzuki. Get on the band wagon
              Current Rides: 82 GS1100E, 00 Triumph 955 Speed Triple:twistedevil:, 03 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 01 Honda GL1800, '15 Kawasaki 1000 Versys
              Past Rides: 72 Honda SL-125, Kawasaki KE-175, 77 GS750 with total yosh stage 1 kit, 79 GS1000s, 80 GS1000S, 82 GS750e,82 GS1000S, 84 VF500f, 86 FZR600, 95 Triumph Sprint 900,96 Triumph Sprint, 97 Triumph Sprint, 01 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 07 Triumph Tiger 1050, 01 Yam YFZ250F
              Work in progress: 78 GS1000, unknown year GS1100ES

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                Originally posted by limeex2 View Post
                Suzuki. Get on the band wagon
                They could keep the Bandit 1250 powerplant and build a completely new bike, styled after the 1100ED, around it. Starting with cool wheels and exhaust and suspension and tank and frame--and let that 1250 breathe! The exhaust on the 1250 is so ugly it's like a Ferrari pulling a trailer.
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                1983 GS1100ES (Bought July 2014)
                1983 GS1100E (Bought July 2014)
                1985 GS700ES (Bought June 2015) Sold
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                All Other Ground is Sinking Sand

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                  amen. I would add to the list a diet, my next bike is not going to weigh as much as a gs, or even a bandit.....I'm getting too old for it....
                  1983 GS 1100 ESD :D

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                    Originally posted by greg78gs750 View Post
                    amen. I would add to the list a diet, my next bike is not going to weigh as much as a gs, or even a bandit.....I'm getting too old for it....
                    In my case, a diet for the rider as well. 40-ish pounds would make a big difference and not just for riding....
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                    09 Kaw C14 Rocket powered Barcalounger
                    1983 GS1100e
                    82\83 1100e Frankenbike
                    1980 GS1260
                    Previous 65 Suzuki 80 Scrambler, 76 KZ900, 02 GSF1200S, 81 GS1100e, 80 GS850G

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                      Weight was one of the reasons I bought a Wee Strom. It is simply lighter, and I'm not as strong. I haven't had particular reasons to do the exercise needed to mostly maintain upper body strength.
                      sigpic[Tom]

                      “The greatest service this country could render the rest of the world would be to put its own house in order and to make of American civilization an example of decency, humanity, and societal success from which others could derive whatever they might find useful to their own purposes.” George Kennan

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                        Originally posted by bobgroger View Post
                        In my case, a diet for the rider as well. 40-ish pounds would make a big difference and not just for riding....
                        39lbs and counting! I lost allot of weight over the winter and all my bikes seem faster this season! Hahah
                        Jedz Moto
                        1988 Honda GL1500-6
                        2002 Honda Reflex 250
                        2018 Triumph Bonneville T120
                        2023 Triumph Scrambler 1200XE
                        Cages: '18 Subaru OB wagon 3.6R and '16 Mazda 3
                        Originally posted by Hayabuser
                        Cool is defined differently by different people... I'm sure the new rider down the block thinks his Ninja 250 is cool and why shouldn't he? Bikes are just cool.

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                          not exactly a ujm, BUT, I was doing some looking on cl last night, quite a few good looking and reasonably priced FZ1's out there, with a curb weight of around 450 ish.....
                          1983 GS 1100 ESD :D

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                            I tend to gain weight, and have been paying attention to it all my life. For a while after grad school, I reached 220. Now I'm near 170, shooting for 155 - 160. My basic method is healthier eating habits. People who lose quickly usually get it back, because eating habits didn't change, and there's social pressure to eat in the old ways.

                            Avoid processed foods, especially anything with added sugar. Fructose metabolizes using the same paths as ethanol. It doesn't trigger a full feeling. It takes a loooong time to develop new eating habits, and train the taste buds to like new things. But, with a good diet, hunger is reduced and energy levels stay more consistent.
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                            “The greatest service this country could render the rest of the world would be to put its own house in order and to make of American civilization an example of decency, humanity, and societal success from which others could derive whatever they might find useful to their own purposes.” George Kennan

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                              So after riding in Florida I got on some great machines... I spent allot of time on my buddies 2017 Triumph T120. OMG I'm in love. He was super generous in letting me ride it... So Comfy, so smooth and the power is AWESOME! Worlds ahead of the Sportster XR1200 I currently have (and refuse to ride). Stock it blows the doors off the XR1200. We did some roll ons and the T120 is by far the quicker bike. It is built perfectly... Feels like a true standard motorcycle... The power plant is one of the best 2 cylinder power plants I've ridden on. I intend to try the Scrambler 1100 out to see how that feels however the Triumph is superior in build quality and general look and feel...

                              I showed my Fiance this last night:

                              National Powersports Distributors is one of the largest sellers of pre-owned powersports vehicles in the US.


                              She said, "Why did you even buy the Harley? that bike is gorgeous! When are you buying it? Because I love it!!!"... Thanks Hunny.

                              Anyway the Triumph T120 is one of the best bikes I've ridden in a long time...
                              Jedz Moto
                              1988 Honda GL1500-6
                              2002 Honda Reflex 250
                              2018 Triumph Bonneville T120
                              2023 Triumph Scrambler 1200XE
                              Cages: '18 Subaru OB wagon 3.6R and '16 Mazda 3
                              Originally posted by Hayabuser
                              Cool is defined differently by different people... I'm sure the new rider down the block thinks his Ninja 250 is cool and why shouldn't he? Bikes are just cool.

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                                Originally posted by Jedz123 View Post
                                So after riding in Florida I got on some great machines... I spent allot of time on my buddies 2017 Triumph T120. OMG I'm in love. He was super generous in letting me ride it... So Comfy, so smooth and the power is AWESOME! Worlds ahead of the Sportster XR1200 I currently have (and refuse to ride). Stock it blows the doors off the XR1200. We did some roll ons and the T120 is by far the quicker bike. It is built perfectly... Feels like a true standard motorcycle... The power plant is one of the best 2 cylinder power plants I've ridden on. I intend to try the Scrambler 1100 out to see how that feels however the Triumph is superior in build quality and general look and feel...

                                I showed my Fiance this last night:

                                National Powersports Distributors is one of the largest sellers of pre-owned powersports vehicles in the US.


                                She said, "Why did you even buy the Harley? that bike is gorgeous! When are you buying it? Because I love it!!!"... Thanks Hunny.

                                Anyway the Triumph T120 is one of the best bikes I've ridden in a long time...
                                After a decade of polishing chrome and aluminium on my 1969 Triumph T100, I LOVE the black engine and pipes. Much easier to keep looking good.
                                1982 Suzuki GS650G

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