seasonal reminder....

[greg78gs750]

Hi all,

I saw 3 deer related crashes on my 25 minute drive to work this morning and narrowly missed bagging a 6-point myself.... the bucks have baby batter for brains this time of year, be safe and give yourself some extra margin.....

[Redman]

...........this morning .... ..... .....

Dawn-sunrize...?

i know in evening-sunset-dusk they are out and about more than day time.
havent thought so much about morning time. Thanks for bringing that up.

has been a while since I have been riding up your way. When I do get on river road, I find myself saying “this is the best road in sourounding county’s, I get here seldom, and it’s what Greg takes to work everyday.”

[bwringer]

Since bagging a seven-pointer with my KLR650 on November 9, 2013 (I had no idea that was pretty much the peak of the rut around here) I stay out of the countryside for the next four or five weeks starting about now.

I was riding in Kentucky this past weekend (October 19-20) and saw several does but no bucks. But pretty soon the bucks around here will start getting bolder, more aggressive and start doing even stupider things than deer already do, if that's possible for one of the dumbest animals on the planet.

Man, I hate deer.

Eat more venison.

[Sandy]

Yup. That time of year. One tip is to not be totally distracted by that deer that crossed in front you because there probably is another couple that are waiting to follow it.

[trevor]

We had a bear cross in front of us on Sunday on our way back from a dual sport ride up island.

[greg78gs750]

I know it is a bit of a bore, topic wise. These were all between 8 and 9 am, two there on river road and one near an elementary school near us. The 6 point I saw jumped across the main road in our neighborhood, all residential area....he was headed down towards Muskegon lake. Definitely did not expect to see him there, at that hour. Got my attention.

[jabcb]

We have mass quantities of deer in Pennsylvania. The important deer predator in the state is hunters — they kill around 300k per year. Without them there would be a lot more hit by vehicles.

[Spyder]

Yep, guy was just killed a couple days ago in the South Bend area. Hit a deer with his bike... Be careful out there guys...

[bwringer]

I've never figured out why there are still hunting seasons and limits for deer; they're MASSIVELY overpopulated throughout North America, yet the numbers of hunters are dwindling.

They're vermin, and we don't have nearly enough exterminators left to even make much of a dent. So why limit hunting like this? States could raise even more revenue from deer tags and maybe everyone would get a little safer.

Yes, deer populations crashed early in the 20th century due to hunting pressure back when pretty much anyone who could walk and carry a gun was hunting. Those days are long gone, but hunting laws are still based around a scarcity of game and a surplus of hunters. It's koo-koo.

This is a pretty decent article from Time magazine: "America's Pest Problem: It's time to Cull the Herd"

http://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,2158676-1,00.html

Walt Disney has killed a LOT of riders - the movie "Bambi" convinced a generation or two of impressionable children that deer were beautiful, intelligent wild animals and made it impossible to pass rational regulation or take action to control the population of these pests.

Eat more venison.

[greg78gs750]

Missed a doe yesterday by a few feet, she would have been tasty.

[Spyder]

Even if they open it up for a couple years, and then tighten the regulation again. Just to thin the population. I still can't believe we can't buy venison at any local grocery store...

[Wingsconsin]

Urban sprawl has caused us to be living amongst them even more than ever before.
The issue with that is it is unlikely to have a HUNTER take one out of the herd in the neighborhood.
Come to me house and drive around and see 8-10 deer any day of the week - and turkey, racoons, opossum, skunks, and squirells and chipminks too -
All in numerous obnoxious numbers --But the area is rife with lightly wooded 1-2 acre homesites -
Lots of 'natural' areas in every yard (small groves of pine and mixed hardwoods) - and a 20 acre park in the center of the subdivision.
It is a beautiful area to live -- but not hunted so Deer and other game animals run wild --
Last weekend we had a FOX run through our yard in the mid-day while we were out burning leaves and tree debris...
And of course the feral cats and many neighborhood pet dogs.

And in the past 3 years the developers have taken down more wild habitat near me for future housing - take down the wooded area and the farm land and create another neighborhood - displacing even more DEER to wander the highways near me...

One has to be mighty careful when riding in deer country - which is where I live...

[limeex2]

Lots of deer in 'sconie !!! I hit one in St Croix county 2013. Compound spiral fracture of the tibula@fibula, 4 broken ribs and a collor bone. Killed the deer and bike. The very next spring I had one run right in front of me again. I roadraced way back when and always update my brakes with at least different pads. Its what saved me. If you see them running next to you and think they will be frightened away, just stop. Cant be trusted.

In the spring, the does have new fawns and kick out the yearling so they wander about aimlessly, in the fall there in rut chasing each other to breed. We all know what thats like...

[jabcb]

Urban sprawl has caused us to be living amongst them even more than ever before.
The issue with that is it is unlikely to have a HUNTER take one out of the herd in the neighborhood.
Come to me house and drive around and see 8-10 deer any day of the week - and turkey, racoons, opossum, skunks, and squirells and chipminks too -
All in numerous obnoxious numbers --But the area is rife with lightly wooded 1-2 acre homesites -
Lots of 'natural' areas in every yard (small groves of pine and mixed hardwoods) - and a 20 acre park in the center of the subdivision.
It is a beautiful area to live -- but not hunted so Deer and other game animals run wild --
Last weekend we had a FOX run through our yard in the mid-day while we were out burning leaves and tree debris...
And of course the feral cats and many neighborhood pet dogs.

And in the past 3 years the developers have taken down more wild habitat near me for future housing - take down the wooded area and the farm land and create another neighborhood - displacing even more DEER to wander the highways near me...

One has to be mighty careful when riding in deer country - which is where I live...

A number of communities in the Pittsburgh area have used a managed archery hunt to control the dear population. Might be useful to suggest that to your local government given the problems you have.

[Wingsconsin]

20 minutes AFTER I posted about the DEER in Urban environment I went for an errand.
I am on my bike - but in a car would've been the same

A DEER crossing a 6 lane highway in the middle of the city of Brookfield which is highly commercial -
Shopping malls, restaurants, banks, etc.
All down the stretch of road of nearly 5-6 miles I would guess --
NO GREEN SPACE ANYWHERE --

And some dumb spike buck decided to go for a walk --
When I went past he was still alive and uninjured...