Suggestions for throttle stop (cruise control) that clamp onto the grip.

[KEITH KRAUSE]

There are several of the cam shaped throttle stops that clamp onto your grip. Some hold the grip better than others. "Omni-Grip" is one that seems like it may work well (?). Is there a brand you suggest?
Also, I like my soft foam grips but I'm thinking the clamps won't hold as well with foam grips. Any experience with this? Thanks.

[Steve]

Is this what you are looking for?



Any particular reason you might not want the Vista Cruise Universal throttle lock?



They are available all-chrome or all-black, I happened to have parts from both, so I mixed them up on my bike.

I have tried the unit pictured at the top, along with the "Wrist Rest", "Cramp Buster" or whatever you want to call the paddle that you rest your palm on, and have decided the Vista Cruise works best for us. We have one on each of our bikes.

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[KEITH KRAUSE]

Thanks for the reply, Steve. Yes, I was thinking about the top one. Looks like the Omni-Cruise. I assume you can tighten it down so it will hold any rubber grip, but I'm not sure if it will hold a foam grip. I may have to call the maker. I really like my foam grips.
The Vista looks OK and I imagine it holds well and the price is right. In your picture, you have quite a gap between the Vista and your throttle housing. Adding that gap and the width of the Vista, the total is about 1" ? If so, you don't find your hand a little off the end of the grip? Do you think the Vista's nylon collar will securely hold a foam grip?
I was looking at another throttle lock made by "Atlas". It only needs about 1/4" of gap to fit most bikes. It actually clamps onto the throttle tube and rotates with the throttle. You press a button and a tab with a friction pad attached, contacts the throttle housing. Press another button and it releases. Fairly small and very easy to mount and swap to another bike. Only negative was the price, $135, surprised me.

[Steve]

In your picture, you have quite a gap between the Vista and your throttle housing. Adding that gap and the width of the Vista, the total is about 1" ? If so, you don't find your hand a little off the end of the grip?

Good eye, Keith.

Yes, it does take a little bit of room, but my grips are long, and there are still 5 inches of room left for my hand.



Had to show the other side for comparison.



The bar that goes over the throttle housing can be trimmed to length, if necessary. I could take about 1/4" off and bring the grip closer to the housing, I just haven't taken the time to do it. The ring that mounts to the grip has an assortment of rubber inset rings and three setscrews to hold it to the grip. I modify the flange on the inner end of the grip so the ring can be mounted to it, rather than take so much room on the grip.

Just for comparison, here are my son's 1000G and my wife's 850L:





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[KEITH KRAUSE]

Steve, thanks for the reply and taking the time to provide pic's. As usual, I'm a bit confused. Your units look a little different. Got some questions. Please bear with me.
How could you (if necessary) trim to length the bar that goes over the throttle housing? Does the threaded hole for the screw go deeper into the bar than the screw? What is the length of the bar as it comes new?
How wide is the "ring" (the entire unit that fits over the grip)?
So I understand the ring fits over your choice of rubber inset ring and that assembly uses 3 set screws that dig into the grip? Looking at the bottom pic with the foam grip, I see a decorative, chrome, flared collar, then I assume that foam grip has a raised collar that's about 1" wide that you mounted the unit over? I'm just trying to be sure because I've never seen grips with a collar that wide.
So the Vista will securely hold onto foam grips?
How wide is the Vista's bar clamp? I'm trying to get an idea of how far over my brake lever will be.
Sorry for so many questions. Just trying to make a good decision. Every throttle lock I've looked at so far has holding issues. Even the small, thin, seemingly perfect (except the $135 price) Atlas, has many reviewers saying it didn't hold, and that's with rubber grips.

[Steve]

Rather than break up your questions into many quotes, I'll just provide answers in red.

Steve, thanks for the reply and taking the time to provide pic's. As usual, I'm a bit confused. Your units look a little different. Got some questions. Please bear with me.
Always ready to answer questions.

How could you (if necessary) trim to length the bar that goes over the throttle housing?
It's just a thick-walled aluminum tube, it can be cut with a hacksaw or a Dremel cut-off wheel.

Does the threaded hole for the screw go deeper into the bar than the screw?
Yes, it is threaded much deeper than the screw's length. Not sure if it's threaded full length, but you'll never get that short.

What is the length of the bar as it comes new?
I was going to say "I don't know", but I just measured our three here. They are all 2 3/4". I can't imagine that I modified all three to exactly the same length, so that is probably the original length.

How wide is the "ring" (the entire unit that fits over the grip)?
Right at 1/2".

So I understand the ring fits over your choice of rubber inset ring and that assembly uses 3 set screws that dig into the grip?
Pretty much correct.

Looking at the bottom pic with the foam grip, I see a decorative, chrome, flared collar, then I assume that foam grip has a raised collar that's about 1" wide that you mounted the unit over? I'm just trying to be sure because I've never seen grips with a collar that wide.
I think the way I mount it might be just a bit deceptive. The plastic throttle tube onto which you slide the grip has a collar. Generally, it is smaller diameter than the grip, so you don't usually see it. Most grips also have a bit of a collar. I grind that down to the same diameter as the throttle tube, then use one of the rubber rings around that pair of collars and anchor the setscrews into that. That minimizes the amount of handgrip space that is claimed by "the ring".

If you look at the lower picture (my wife's 850L), you will see the chrome tension band that wraps around the ring. It rides in a groove that you can sort of see, right at the very top. To the right of the chrome band is a very narrow flange. That is the right side of the ring. To the left of the chrome band, at the top, you can see one of the setscrews. To the right of the ring is a black foam disk that is just there to fill in the gap between the grip and the housing. The tapered chrome area is the end of the grip.

The center picture is my son's 1000G. The ring is mounted similarly, to maximize space on the grip for his larger hands.

The top picture is my 850. I have the ring mounted the other way around, with the setscrews outboard of the clamp ring. I am not so worried about space on the grip, there's plenty for me.

So the Vista will securely hold onto foam grips?
I don't know how it would be on the foam itself, I try to mount to something more solid, like the throttle tube. Might have to be a bit creative and find a piece of PVC pipe (only about 5/8" wide) that you can slide on the tube before your foam grip, find a way to lock that to the throttle tube, then clamp the Vista ring onto it.

How wide is the Vista's bar clamp? I'm trying to get an idea of how far over my brake lever will be.
It's about 3/8" wide. We have had no problem with the different location of the brake lever, but we are also all using stock bars. If you are using narrower bars, you might have to check to see if you can slide the brake assembly inward 3/8-1/2".

Sorry for so many questions. Just trying to make a good decision. Every throttle lock I've looked at so far has holding issues. Even the small, thin, seemingly perfect (except the $135 price) Atlas, has many reviewers saying it didn't hold, and that's with rubber grips.
There is an adjustment screw on the back side of the upper clamp. It's not visible in any of those pictures. You can set the tension to virtually NOTHING, where you will wonder why you bothered to install it, all the way to SOLID, as in CAN'T MOVE IT. I usually have it set so the throttle will not move on its own, but it's still easy enough to grip the throttle, add just a little to maintain speed as you go up an overpass, then back off a little as you go over the top. The really nice thing is that you don't have to maintain a grip on the throttle to maintain speed. You can keep your hand there for control, but it is relaxed.

Hope this helps some.

[KEITH KRAUSE]

So I understand the ring fits over your choice of rubber inset ring and that assembly uses 3 set screws that dig into the grip?
Pretty much correct.
(KK...OK, I just cannot get a visual on how the parts fit together. I was wrong, the set screws actually push into the collar/rubber ring and that tightens the collar around the plastic throttle tube? The set screws don't actually contact the plastic throttle tube.)


I think the way I mount it might be just a bit deceptive. The plastic throttle tube onto which you slide the grip has a collar. Generally, it is smaller diameter than the grip, so you don't usually see it.
(KK...I'm lost here. My plastic throttle tube has no collar. It's just straight all the way into the throttle housing.)


Most grips also have a bit of a collar. I grind that down to the same diameter as the throttle tube, then use one of the rubber rings around that pair of collars and anchor the setscrews into that. That minimizes the amount of handgrip space that is claimed by "the ring".
(KK...I'm not clear here either. I understand you want to modify the collar of the grip but I don't understand how you grind down the grips collar to the same diameter as the throttle tube. To me, that means you removed the entire grip collar. Again, not important now as I assume with the parts in my hand and the instructions, I'll understand what you said.)



The center picture is my son's 1000G. The ring is mounted similarly, to maximize space on the grip for his larger hands.

The top picture is my 850. I have the ring mounted the other way around, with the setscrews outboard of the clamp ring. I am not so worried about space on the grip, there's plenty for me.
(KK...I just don't see how grip space is changed if you mount the ring on the right side of the clamp ring. But it isn't something that matters at this time.)

I'm not sure why my replies are also in red.
Steve, thanks so much for the help. Despite not being smart enough to follow everything you said, I have an idea of what to expect if I buy the Vista. In buying a throttle lock, one feature I'd like to have is the ability to swap the same lock between my GS and my ZX14. I just checked and my 14 isn't compatible with the Vista. Not a deal breaker as the Vista is cheap. There are more locks available since I shopped around a few years ago. I'll look around some more. So far, the Vista appears to be the only lock I've looked at that will positively lock the throttle. All the others have varying results according to reviews.
Thanks again.

[trevor]

Easy...get one of these...I have one on every bike and thew work brilliantly!

https://www.advdesigns.com/gocrthascrco.html

[gsrick]

There are several of the cam shaped throttle stops that clamp onto your grip. Some hold the grip better than others. "Omni-Grip" is one that seems like it may work well (?). Is there a brand you suggest?
Also, I like my soft foam grips but I'm thinking the clamps won't hold as well with foam grips. Any experience with this? Thanks.

I don't currently have one on any of my bikes, but i did on SuzyII my 81 1000G. It consisted of a short section of a metal coat hanger and the end of a clear oxygen breathing hose to keep the two ends of the hanger together. You basically bend the coathanger around the grip and push the end of the hose over the two ends. When your riding just push the hanger over the grip until it contacts your brake lever. When you want to return to throttle control just rotate the throttle and the hanger stays back out of the way. When you know your not going to use it, just rotate it around to where you don't see it. The ends will be pointing down. Here is the closest thing I could find to sho what i mean. The only difference is that they twisted the ends together instead of using the O2 tube end.

[KEITH KRAUSE]

Rick, thanks for the reply. Interesting idea. Now you got me thinking and I'll probably come up with my own version and get myself killed.
I had a similar idea today but haven't tried it yet. I have some industrial strength zip-ties that may work. I doubt they'll snug down enough to hold foam, but they may work on rubber grips. Would be as clean and simple as you could get.

[KEITH KRAUSE]

Easy...get one of these...I have one on every bike and thew work brilliantly!

https://www.advdesigns.com/gocrthascrco.html

Thanks for the reply. I read about this product but a lot of people said they slip too much or won't hold the throttle for more than a minute or two. I really like the simple design and price, but I'm pretty sure they won't hold a foam grip.

[gsrick]

Rick, thanks for the reply. Interesting idea. Now you got me thinking and I'll probably come up with my own version and get myself killed.
I had a similar idea today but haven't tried it yet. I have some industrial strength zip-ties that may work. I doubt they'll snug down enough to hold foam, but they may work on rubber grips. Would be as clean and simple as you could get.

What like these guys did?

[greg78gs750]

I had the vista cruise, works as advertised.

[mrbill5491]

I've had a couple different ones on my bike, they both were eventually tossed. Never liked how they worked. I just have the cramp buster on now. Matter of fact I have one for the left side too, like them pretty well.

[Wingsconsin]

I have the Vista cruise on my 850 -
I also have the foam grip puppies over the typical grips
The Vista works OVER the FOAM grips quite well - it has many adjustments -
I have tied a lot of different ones - Right now I have a wide throttle rocker and the Vista lock
The rocker I only use on the highways to ease the grip pressure needed for a longer ride.
I don't like the rocker when more precise control is needed so I remove it and hang it on one of my windscreen stays.
The Vista Lock is like any other throttle lock (except it works) as it locks the throttle in place
Not a cruise control - it doesn't adjust for up or down hills - so you may find yourself going slow or fast
BUT - to rest your hand, open a pocket, take a drink, or scratch your nose -- Perfect !