why no self canceling signals?

[rphillips]

I haven't ridden a Harley for yrs. now, maybe they now have both set-ups. Not sure who was the very first bike with self-canceling. Just don't see why they aren't standard on bikes by now. If Suzuki still used their old system & old patent, from the 70's, & never made any upgrades nor improvements it'd be a lot better than what they have now, which is nothing, on most bikes.

[erki52]

My GS certainly doesn't have them. Most of the cars I have owned have had them, they cancel as soon as the steering wheel is straightened after the turn. Steve.... your's might cancel if you had bendy roads like ours in the UK. However it would appear that using indicators in the UK (especially in the Plymouth area) is against the law considering how many riders and drivers don't actually use them.

[Spyder]

The auto canceling in most cars is mechanical in the steering column. I have to assume that we don't see digital auto canceling signals in most vehicles now, is that the systems can't be made as reliable as the mechanical systems. If the digital system stops working, usually your signals don't work properly. I have never owned a bike with self canceling. Yes I have ridden some miles with my signal on. For the most part, I am pretty good at remembering to turn them off.

I would think, it wouldn't be too difficult (for an electrical engineer) to design a module for this. Sounds cheap to make, and easy to replace...

[GS1150Pilot]

I really like them on the Harley.

[rphillips]

Always really liked them on my old Suzukis. Still like them on my "83" GS1100E. Work great.

[wyly]

The newest bike I've owned is my 84 1150 with self cancelling signals.

I took part in a group ride with some young guys on newer bikes who became intrigued with my signals asking how they worked, "I have no idea they just do". They were peering at it from all directions trying to figure it out.

Up to that point I just assumed all modern bikes had them too.

[rphillips]

Totally different from cars. The Suzuki auto. turn signals will never stop flashing if you are under 15 mph. Over 15 mph. they calculate distance, I'm thinking 250' above 15 mph & the signals turn off. Not perfect in every situation, but way better than nothing. Another thing from the past, Does anyone miss the gear position indicators? I loved them from "77" thru "86", then Suzuki took that away also. I've found & installed an after mkt. gear pos. indicator on my "05" Bandit & love it. Why did Suzuki discontinue that? Everyone I knew loved it, & the Kawa. & Honda riders I knew wished they had it also.

[Steve]

Totally different from cars. The Suzuki auto. turn signals will never stop flashing if you are under 15 mph. Over 15 mph. they calculate distance, I'm thinking 250' above 15 mph & the signals turn off. Not perfect in every situation, but way better than nothing.

According to the manual, they will stay ON until the bike travels more than 10 seconds at more than 10 MPH. (The manual actually says 15 kph, which is close to 10 MPH.) I have found that to be just a little shy of what is necessary to change lanes into a left turn lane, slow down and stop, waiting for the signal, so I usually push the button to restart the cycle before it times out. On the other hand, I have found that to be a little longer than what is necessary to just change lanes on the highway. The full cycle will get 10 or 11 flashes of the signal, I usually find 7 to be enough, so I cancel it manually.

Does anyone miss the gear position indicators?

Every time I get on my Goldwing.

Many things better on the Wing, but there is no gear indicator.

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[wymple]

I had a new XS650 Yamaha in 1980 and they were self cancelling, I think 10 seconds or 100 yards. Other Yamahas had them several years earlier, maybe 1976? Both my early Viragos had them.

[Grimly]

I would think, it wouldn't be too difficult (for an electrical engineer) to design a module for this. Sounds cheap to make, and easy to replace...

Trivially simple to incorporate a timer into the feed to the flasher unit. Ten seconds is enough for most instances, and you still have the manual cancel.
The extra complication of speed/distance is not needed.

[TxGSrider]

Heck if think 90 seconds would be fine. It beats the heck outta me riding for 15 minutes before I realize it's still on. Lol

[TxGSrider]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/231144223931

[Steve]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/231144223931

That one is nice, but won't work on a GS. In its description, it's for a bike with individual, momentary-contact switches for left and right signals.

There are other units available, but they are similarly expen$ive.

https://kisantech.com/signalminder.html

[rphillips]

Not fair steve, you went by the manual, I went by memory, that gave me the right to be a little mistaken. Either way, time or distance, the Suzuki system works pretty dang well, & it should still be in use.

[gbw]

There are other units available, but they are similarly expen$ive.
https://kisantech.com/signalminder.html

Those look pretty cool. They even have one that fits my Tiger. I'd like to have one, but instead I'll probably spend the 100 bucks on gas for the bike, and try to remember to cancel the signals manually.