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    How to remove seat without a key

    So, my ignition and seat lock have different keys. I appear to have lost the seat lock key.
    Is there some way to remove the seat?
    1980 gs1100.
    80 gs1100 16-v ported & polished, 1 mm oversize intake valves, 1150 carbs w/Dynojet stage 3, plus Bandit/gsxr upgrades
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    If your '80 is like my '82 (levers on either side, lock centered just behind the seat), the seat flexed enough to pop it off while the rear was still locked. I was then able to drill out the lock. I haven't replaced it, and I don't miss it: three hands were occasionally needed to remove the seat.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Rob S. View Post
      If your '80 is like my '82 (levers on either side, . . .
      . . .
      1980 seats had hinges on one side and the keyed latch (and helmet lock) on other side. I think 82 was first year for having the key latch in back.
      OP is asking about 1980.
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        #4
        Originally posted by nastyjones View Post
        So, my ignition and seat lock have different keys. I appear to have lost the seat lock key.
        Is there some way to remove the seat?
        1980 gs1100.
        Is there a code on the seat lock, if so I can cut a key for you, also what key fits the gas cap, same as seat? if so maybe a code on that.

        BTW The 1980 GS 1100 (GSX 1100) had the seat lock at back in the rear tail section.

        David
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          #5
          Hi David, I'll check the lock for numbers and get back to you.
          Thanks, Paul
          80 gs1100 16-v ported & polished, 1 mm oversize intake valves, 1150 carbs w/Dynojet stage 3, plus Bandit/gsxr upgrades

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            #6
            UUUHHH, I don't remember hinges on any of my GS1100E seats, but it has been a lot of yrs. since I had an "80" model.
            1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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              #7
              Maybe try to rake or pick it?

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              Don't quote me on this, but IIRC there are five wafers in a GS ignition, but they only used three wafers in the seat and gas cap locks.
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                #8
                Originally posted by bwringer View Post
                Maybe try to rake or pick it?

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                Don't quote me on this, but IIRC there are five wafers in a GS ignition, but they only used three wafers in the seat and gas cap locks.
                I did quote you, even though you said not to, but there are 5 wafers in all locks including both the gas cap and seat lock.

                They are not difficult to pick as long as you have a good set of picks, they require a firm tension wrench which is wide enough to get a good turning torque on the plug but not too wide so it impedes access to the wafers.

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                David
                2018 Honda Africa Twin AS
                2013 DR 650 Grey, sold 1981 GS 650E Silver,
                1980 GS1000ST Blue & White, X2
                2012 DL650 Vstrom Foxy Orange, in storage
                1981 CT110 X2 "Postie Bikes" Gone to a New Home.
                2002 BMW 1150 GS Blue & White - Sold
                1975 BMW R90/6 Black - Sold 1984 GS1150EF Sold
                1982 BMW R100 Africa trip, Stolen - Recovered- Sold
                1977-1980 Suzuki GS550, GS1000E, GS1000S GSX750, GSX1100,s
                Hondas ST90, CR125 CB175 , CB350 CB750, NSU Quickly, Yamaha RD's 350/400,

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kiwi Canuck View Post
                  I did quote you, even though you said not to, but there are 5 wafers in all locks including both the gas cap and seat lock.
                  Good to know. I've only opened one GS gas cap lock, and there were only three wafers in it. Someone must have modified it. It's not all that uncommon to file, remix, or remove wafers in order to get all the locks on a bike working with the same key. I've also filed ignition wafers a bit to get them working smoothly again after a lot of lock and key wear.
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                    #10
                    As mentioned above, the seat lock will have a key code on it. There are lots of places, some on EBAY, that can create a key for a few bucks. This all assumes that you have a few bucks, don't mind parting with them, and can wait a few days. Worked for me!
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