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    #16
    Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
    T..then why do I have an E model and a C model??? The C designations (models ) have spokes. And there are 2 E desigantions as well ....EC and EN. So no I am not wrong. The E and C are submodel designations of the 1000cc bikes.
    Chuck

    C = 78 model year
    N= 79 model year

    A 79 spoke wheel 1000 is not a C model, it's not a N model, It's a N year 1000

    Plus , there are 3 E model years with the 1980

    Look in any 1979 parts fiche and show me a C model

    I have brought this up a number of times before, but gave up, because the misinformation is strong here. I believe I have a bit of knowledge here, having bought a 78 spoke wheel brand new

    The same thing applies to 750s and 550s
    Last edited by Big T; 07-03-2016, 01:46 PM.
    1978 GS 1000 (since new)
    1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
    1978 GS 1000 (parts)
    1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
    1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
    1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
    2007 DRz 400S
    1999 ATK 490ES
    1994 DR 350SES

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      #17
      T, engine reads GS1000-102186, frame reads GS1000 102192 same as paperwork. MFD IN 1/78 (right off the frame). Yes square rear pegs, choke is directly on the carbs left side.

      IMG_8088.jpg

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        #18
        Well that would make it a mid run 78 Gordon,just one that though time has gotten a 79 tank and tail.It's sort of like my 78 1000"C" coming with the star alloy wheels,you wonder why some PO did it then carry on.I'll give my take on the E and C designation,While BigT and dantod are right the spoke wheel single disc are just GS1000 I think using the C or N model year as sort of a shorthand to say which year it is.So did the factory so in that sense Chuck to is correct.

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          #19
          Originally posted by SVSooke View Post
          Well that would make it a mid run 78 Gordon,just one that though time has gotten a 79 tank and tail.It's sort of like my 78 1000"C" coming with the star alloy wheels,you wonder why some PO did it then carry on.I'll give my take on the E and C designation,While BigT and dantod are right the spoke wheel single disc are just GS1000 I think using the C or N model year as sort of a shorthand to say which year it is.So did the factory so in that sense Chuck to is correct.
          SV, thank you. Well this gives me more to consider as I am now concerned why a new tank and tail were required (accident). If nothing else it has made it more interesting. I will start a thread in projects with all the photos and breakdown thus far. The bike is now 50% stripped and the engine is out. The frame is cosmetically beat up but now I will take a serious look at the welds and the alignment. Thanks to all for the input.

          G

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            #20
            I dont have a tail cowl but I do have a 78 indented tank I would trade even up for your 79 tank if thats a direction you wish to go. I would like to get the 79 tank and do a set of red Cooley parts at some point. Get tired of my blue set and swap them out and ride red for a while. My tank is gonna need repainted though.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Gordon B View Post
              SV, thank you. Well this gives me more to consider as I am now concerned why a new tank and tail were required (accident). If nothing else it has made it more interesting. I will start a thread in projects with all the photos and breakdown thus far. The bike is now 50% stripped and the engine is out. The frame is cosmetically beat up but now I will take a serious look at the welds and the alignment. Thanks to all for the input.

              G
              The 78 tanks have a probably deserved reputation for rusting out a 79 or 80 tank is not that uncommon.Some PO just went the extra step and added the "smooth" tail.Checking welds on any new to you bike especially of this age is never a bad idea but the later bodywork isn't a huge red flag IMO.

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                #22
                Originally posted by SVSooke View Post
                The 78 tanks have a probably deserved reputation for rusting out a 79 or 80 tank is not that uncommon.Some PO just went the extra step and added the "smooth" tail.Checking welds on any new to you bike especially of this age is never a bad idea but the later bodywork isn't a huge red flag IMO.
                I went over the full frame last night and other than paint wear and grime (and the frame cut under the right rear peg) the frame looks good. When pulling the engine I noted one odd bolt which gives me the impression the engine may have been out before. The wiring harness looks old and original save a few items and all the electrical functioned when originally tested. The rear suspension and the spoke rims have been sprayed black and as mentioned before the pipes were a custom 4 into 1 piece of junk (now in the garbage). The engine leaks oil (no surprise) and I am suspicious that the gaskets were cheap (much reading here has warned against this). Another reason I suspect the engine has been out. When I checked the compression it was on the low end (I don't have the numbers handy at the moment) and from peaking in both intake and exhaust there is work to be done. BASSCLIFF's site is a wealth of info and I plan to heed the advice. Valves and carbs will be baselined and then I will look for indications of more sinister problems (fingers crossed). The tank has a dent and will require paint (part of the plan anyway), the fuel cock is some sort of aftermarket item and stains on the engine below indicate fuel leaking (damn dangerous I suspect). It is a learning project for me...I'm about to be educated. I will start a new project post and outline my plan with many photos. I could use a few opinions and I am sure they will be offered.
                Thanks again to all.

                G

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                  #23
                  Welcome Gordon,

                  Wow! A single disc liter bike??? And an awesome lookin' Gixxer!

                  Geeze, learning about year designations and models is fun around here--some knowledgeable members on here.

                  Post moar pics of the GSX-R1100 and of course your build.


                  Ed
                  GS750TZ V&H/4-1, Progressive Shocks, Rebuilt MC/braided line, Tarozzi Stabilizer[Seq#2312]
                  GS750TZ Parts Bike [Seq#6036]
                  GSX-R750Y (Sold)

                  my opinion shouldn't be taken as gospel or in any way that would lead you to believe otherwise (30Sep2021)

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                    #24
                    Yes.......the C has a single front disc as stock setup Ed. E has duals.
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                      Yes.......the C has a single front disc as stock setup Ed. E has duals.
                      I learned something new! WooHoo!

                      Thanks Chuck.


                      Ed
                      GS750TZ V&H/4-1, Progressive Shocks, Rebuilt MC/braided line, Tarozzi Stabilizer[Seq#2312]
                      GS750TZ Parts Bike [Seq#6036]
                      GSX-R750Y (Sold)

                      my opinion shouldn't be taken as gospel or in any way that would lead you to believe otherwise (30Sep2021)

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Gordon B View Post
                        azr, no hacking..some bashing. Believe it or not the exhaust is a custom piece of junk the guy built himself. Story goes that he worked at Bombardier (thus the Bombardier serial plate attached). He cut the frame to make it fit and hacked the front mounts. Thankfully I was able to remove it all without any apparent damage. I have been taking pictures and tagging everything as I pull it apart. **seems my photos are too big. I had some better views of the frankenstein job this guy put together.
                        Gotta hand it to a guy that can build his own exhaust. Looks like a nice job to me.
                        https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4442/...678005be58.jpg

                        1982 GS1100 G converted by Motorcyclist magazine in 1986 to be a tribute to the Wes Cooley replica. 1982 Honda 900F. 1997 Yamaha VMax.
                        Also owned: 1973 Kawasaki Z1 900, 1972 Honda 750 K, 1976 Yamaha XS 650, 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 MKII, 1978 Kawasaki SR 650. Current cage is a 2001 Mustang Bullitt in Dark Highland Green. Bought new in Sept. 2001.

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                          #27
                          Cs can have duals if you swap out a right side lower with an E lower and get the splitter that bolts to the triple tree. Hub is already to accept another disc. Dont know why they just didnt go dual from the jump myself.
                          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                            Cs can have duals if you swap out a right side lower with an E lower and get the splitter that bolts to the triple tree. Hub is already to accept another disc. Dont know why they just didnt go dual from the jump myself.
                            I reference that because my "T" only has one disc.

                            The duel-disks are worth having but I guess they were thinking from the same parts bin when they came out with the "T's".


                            Ed
                            GS750TZ V&H/4-1, Progressive Shocks, Rebuilt MC/braided line, Tarozzi Stabilizer[Seq#2312]
                            GS750TZ Parts Bike [Seq#6036]
                            GSX-R750Y (Sold)

                            my opinion shouldn't be taken as gospel or in any way that would lead you to believe otherwise (30Sep2021)

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