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    Hi from Canada...

    Hi there!

    My name is Frank, I'm from Montreal, Quebec. I'm 56, motorcyclist since 2012, vintage bike fan.
    My current ride is a Yamaha FJ09 2016.

    I just bought this nice suzuki GS850 last week. Paid 3000 CAN$. She's at 39600 km and she's so incredibly clean.
    I'm currently sorting her out...

    Problems as of now:
    - Carbs were cleaned out as I thought it was why it leaked gas...
    - Petcock seal leaking (from outside of it), I tried rtv'ing the diaphragm thingy but I think I messed the sealing action, so know its leaking in the carb. Finally read about it and ordered a new one from the stealer. Arrival date unknown. Did put a cheap shut-off valve in there but I thinks it's chocking the flow of the gas. Not sure how to handle this while waiting for the stealer as I'm cranked at riding this thing out...
    - Air box was open a like a god damn barn door. Weather stripping was installed all around side covers and on the air filter.
    - Battery was dead, new one is in.
    - Charging problem with the booster pack while waiting for the new battery (12,5 volts @ any rpm). After checking stator and regulator, plugged everything back in, and the problem just vanished... Guess I understand now why the Stator pages were first talking about connections.. lol
    - She's a bit rough idling and have some sort of odd firing when rpm are @ 4000. But it maybe related to the petcock and gas line problem.

    Here is a photo:

    gs850 1979 1.jpg

    She's so nice!

    Thanks for your time...

    Frank
    Last edited by maisf; 08-14-2020, 11:23 AM.
    ------ Current rides: -----------------

    Honda CT70 K0 1970 complete restoration in progress
    Suzuki GS850 1979 as stock as could be... well except for the bars!
    Yamaha FJ-09 2016 with OEM saddle bags for long distance running and gunning
    Yamaha VStar 1300 2007 (wife's) for relaxing

    #2
    Hi Frank and Welcome
    Great looking bike. Many happy miles and safe arrivals.
    If I could suggest, get the electrical system sorted first. Connections, connections, connections.
    Particularly the fusebox, the kill switch and ignition switch internal contacts and the coil supply plugs.
    Here is our library http://members.dslextreme.com/users/bikecliff/
    There is a thread here somewhere Top Ten Newbie Mistakes well worth a read. I'll look for the link later.
    Once again a very nice looking machine.
    1A) (NEW) Trying to diagnose running problems on a bike with an unknown maintenance history. Common maintenance items like clean carbs, properly adjusted valves, no air leaks in the intake system (airbox, carb boots), a clean gas tank (no rust), and a properly functioning petcock are 100% mandatory for the bike to run properly.
    Last edited by Brendan W; 08-14-2020, 02:23 PM.
    97 R1100R
    Previous
    80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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      #3
      Originally posted by maisf View Post
      .....
      ...... and she's so incredibly clean.
      ....


      ....
      Certainly is !

      Thanks for the introduction and picture.

      Welcome to TheGSR.
      http://webpages.charter.net/ddvrnr/GS850_1100_Emblems.jpg
      Had 850G for 14 years. Now have GK since 2005.
      GK at IndyMotoGP Suzuki Display... ... GK on GSResources Page ... ... Euro Trash Ego Machine .. ..3 mo'cykls.... update 2 mocykl


      https://imgur.com/YTMtgq4

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        #4
        Note: If check the stator, and need to replace it, keep in mind that the 78 & 79 stator is different than 80 and after. (were a lot of design changes for the 1980 model year.)

        Later note: Oh, your charging problem was probably a connection somewhere, not the stator.
        http://webpages.charter.net/ddvrnr/GS850_1100_Emblems.jpg
        Had 850G for 14 years. Now have GK since 2005.
        GK at IndyMotoGP Suzuki Display... ... GK on GSResources Page ... ... Euro Trash Ego Machine .. ..3 mo'cykls.... update 2 mocykl


        https://imgur.com/YTMtgq4

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          #5
          Welcome Frank!

          Nice bike...you've done quite the EVAL on all the preventative/safety maintenance. Brendan provided a link to Basscliff's site...great source to use for your bike!

          Seems as though you and I started riding around the same time (I'm 54)...my time was late 2011...and the bike...a 2000 GSX-R750!!! (Sold it after 6 months)

          The following year, I acquired my "T" from a guy in Glenn Burnie, MD. I couldn't pass up a "titled" identical "T" from Palmerton, PA soon after...which is now my parts bike!

          Enjoy your way around here and get a photo hosting site so you can post pics of your bikes. I'm sure that FJ09 looks fancy.

          See you around.

          Ed

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          Last edited by GSXR7ED; 08-15-2020, 10:35 AM.
          GS750TZ V&H/4-1, Progressive Shocks, Rebuilt MC/braided line, Tarozzi Stabilizer[Seq#2312]
          GS750TZ Parts Bike [Seq#6036]
          GSX-R750Y (Sold)

          my opinion shouldn't be taken as gospel or in any way that would lead you to believe otherwise (30Sep2021)

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            #6
            Shoot, that thing looks gooood. Seems you're almost there as far as the problems listed. rough idling could be a wee bit of build-up in a pilot. You're wanting to get it out, Why not about a half can of Seafoam in a tank of gas & about a 100, or so, mi. spin? Certainly couldn't hurt & for $7.00 if it were to get rid of a little build-up in a carb. it'd be great. Congrats, welcome, & good luck.
            1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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              #7
              Nice! And look....a kick starter. Very cool. My favorite color on these bikes too. Welcome aboard.
              Current Bikes:
              2001 Yamaha FZ1 (bought same one back)

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                #8
                Hi guys,

                Thanks for the welcoming!

                I have read a lot about the newbies pages and also Bass Cliff pages, these are full of very great infos!

                I finally could ride the bike last Friday... Sorted out the petcock and got her running nice and smooth.
                I went sailing around the house for 40 km. Everything was great, lot of power great idling and all. Not much brake but that maybe normal, not sure.

                I was back, just half a km away when I had a big drop in power, very sluggish throttle response. Motor would just died if dropped below 2000 rpm. I was like WTF!!!

                Did manage to get back home, barely...

                Now... well I first thought it was some crap from the gas tank that got stocked in the petcock as the filter / strainer was just gone.
                I have ordered a new petcock assembly and right now I'm running on "PRI" position on the old one so it's on reserve and bypassing the damaged diaphragm thing.
                But when I removed the gas tank and got the petcock in the "PRI" position, gas was flowing right through...
                And since I added an inline gas filter, I think gas isn't a problem as of now.

                So I'm a bit lost now... I know I had charging problems (connections) so could this be related?
                I know coils could use some love, what are the symptoms of these kind of problems?

                Any troubleshooting advices are welcome!

                Frank
                ------ Current rides: -----------------

                Honda CT70 K0 1970 complete restoration in progress
                Suzuki GS850 1979 as stock as could be... well except for the bars!
                Yamaha FJ-09 2016 with OEM saddle bags for long distance running and gunning
                Yamaha VStar 1300 2007 (wife's) for relaxing

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                  #9
                  Watch those inline filters. Some are intended for pumped systems and will struggle to give adequate flow in a gravity system.
                  Coils are fairly bulletproof.
                  Best be methodical on the electrical system, checking and cleaning and measuring.
                  In my own case, misfiring went away after a day or so spent cleaning fusebox, ign and kill switch contacts and coil supply plugs.
                  Last edited by Brendan W; 08-17-2020, 12:16 PM.
                  97 R1100R
                  Previous
                  80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brendan W View Post
                    Watch those inline filters. Some are intended for pumped systems and will struggle to give adequate flow in a gravity system.
                    Coils are fairly bulletproof.
                    Best be methodical on the electrical system, checking and cleaning and measuring.
                    In my own case, misfiring went away after a day or so spent cleaning fusebox, ign and kill switch contacts and coil supply plugs.
                    Hi Brendan!

                    Well, fuel filter should be ok, since the bike was running great for 40 km... I don't expect occasionnal problem of this sort from a fuel filter... And I had a lot of bad things in the tank so it wasn't a real choice until I put a new petcock with a correct strainer in there.

                    Kill switch would... hum kill the engine I guess...

                    I guess it leave the ignition as a possible winner.
                    I'm not sure it is just misfiring... It's sounding like it's choked out. It just respond to throttle very slowly, having a hard time reving up.
                    My bike has some sort of electronic ignition, the points system was upgraded at some time. Any ideas how this stuff is aging? How do I test these, any how-to on the forums?

                    Gosh, another newbie question: Is there a place I could order some new connectors? I already broke a wire on the gas tank meter and local hardware store only has the very cheap ones...
                    ------ Current rides: -----------------

                    Honda CT70 K0 1970 complete restoration in progress
                    Suzuki GS850 1979 as stock as could be... well except for the bars!
                    Yamaha FJ-09 2016 with OEM saddle bags for long distance running and gunning
                    Yamaha VStar 1300 2007 (wife's) for relaxing

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                      #11
                      It's important NOT to leave the petcock in PRIme position. This will cause a fuel build-up in the carbs and then in the crankcase. Not a Good Thing.
                      Expecting the Spanish Inquisition
                      1981 GS850G: the Ratzuki
                      1981 GS1100E

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                        #12
                        Vintageconnections.com

                        Sounds like a pair of cylinders stopped firing

                        Time to move your issues to the technical forums
                        1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                        1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                        1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                        1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                        1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                        1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                        2007 DRz 400S
                        1999 ATK 490ES
                        1994 DR 350SES

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by zuluwiz View Post
                          It's important NOT to leave the petcock in PRIme position. This will cause a fuel build-up in the carbs and then in the crankcase. Not a Good Thing.
                          Hi zuluwiz, Thanks for the advice, I figured this out, I turn the petcock to "on" to shut it off... Even if this sounds weird...
                          ------ Current rides: -----------------

                          Honda CT70 K0 1970 complete restoration in progress
                          Suzuki GS850 1979 as stock as could be... well except for the bars!
                          Yamaha FJ-09 2016 with OEM saddle bags for long distance running and gunning
                          Yamaha VStar 1300 2007 (wife's) for relaxing

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Big T View Post
                            Vintageconnections.com

                            Sounds like a pair of cylinders stopped firing

                            Time to move your issues to the technical forums
                            Hi BigT,

                            Thanks for the link, I've got a few connectors on the way!

                            What section of the technicals forums would that be if I may ask?
                            ------ Current rides: -----------------

                            Honda CT70 K0 1970 complete restoration in progress
                            Suzuki GS850 1979 as stock as could be... well except for the bars!
                            Yamaha FJ-09 2016 with OEM saddle bags for long distance running and gunning
                            Yamaha VStar 1300 2007 (wife's) for relaxing

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                              #15
                              I'm gonna start a thread in the electrical section...
                              ------ Current rides: -----------------

                              Honda CT70 K0 1970 complete restoration in progress
                              Suzuki GS850 1979 as stock as could be... well except for the bars!
                              Yamaha FJ-09 2016 with OEM saddle bags for long distance running and gunning
                              Yamaha VStar 1300 2007 (wife's) for relaxing

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