zrx12 vs gs1150

[argonsagas]

With an incredible amount of hyperbole, supported by endless lies, (AKA carefully selected statistics ), Ontario created laws that bypass the designation of what is criminally right and wrong and simply take away your driving licence and your car, on the spot and leave you exposed to jail time.

If you drive 49km over the posted limit in Ontario you area wonderful person who happened to be speeding....obviously a normal part of everyday life, but you got caught. Ah, well. here's your ticket, go on home and think about it, because the ticket is expensive.

BUT

if you touch 50kph over that same limit on that same road then you are a incredibly dangerous and despicable criminal bastard, only barely worthy of being considered human.

You should be removed from society and you fully deserve the worst that the police officer on the spot can deliver to your sorry ass and you should bow on your knees and plead with said officer for forgiveness.


Not that any amount of pleading will work when such officer has tremendous power over that immediate moment of your life and the additional power to inflict severe damage on your public reputation as well as negatively impact your financial status for years to come.


Is it even remotely possible to believe that a person with the role of police officer in the Province will miss an opportunity to reduce a supposedly-fellow human being to less than serf status? Sure it is, if you have a child's imagination of how things should be, but reality is that said officer now has no judge/jury or anyone else to second-guess his/her choice of penalty....you walk home, with no car/truck/bike and you wait for the court date to see how much the fine will be....perhaps $10,000 and loss of licence, plus time in jail.

We have become a society of idiots who permit our being controlled by fools, who we also allow to carry guns.

http://www.paherald.sk.ca/index.cfm?sid=265507&sc=675

[850 Combat]

Two weeks ago, I was riding with my brothers through Ontario from the UP of Michigan to Thousand Islands. The speed limits are low well into the rediculous. Speeds driven by locals were routinely 20-30 KPH higher than posted limits. Almost nobody drove slower than 20 KPH above the posted. Enforcement is selective at best. The lake country on (as I recall route 118) was very beautiful.

The RMP have tremendous power over drivers at all times due to the gold plated fact that virtually all traffic is speeding at all times. That gives them probable cause to stop virtually anybody at virtually any time if they so choose.

I discussed this with some friendly locals where we spent the night in Bracebridge.

Nice place.

http://www.paherald.sk.ca/index.cfm?sid=265507&sc=675[/URL]

[toolman]

argonsagas: you better move to bc with your road bike. sounds like opp{ontario provincal police} is out for blood.when i drove to ont. a few years back i was caught speeding twice only one sent me a ticket that was paid the other is waiting for me in ont. somewhere .
the rcmp are not allowed to give chase to a speeding bike on the secondary hwys ,they just leave you alone its there policy to let you ride in peace and if you are too agressive the road will tag you with its own kind of justice.
i have passed the rcmp going the opposit direction at well over the posted and all i got was a blip from the lights. but go over on the coquihalla hwy or #1 and watch out they will persue.and those hwy cruisers do go my buddy is a wana be cop and his last chase was a guy in a truck , he said they were doing 240 kmh and caught him.
thanks for the input ......toolman

[toolman]

850combat: i know what you mean when i was there i was amazed at how fast everybody was traveling . when i was on the q.e.w. {queen elisabeth way}an iter cith hwy the speed of some was at lest 150 k and the slow ones were going120-130k. in a posted 100k.. you ether drove like them or they ran you off the road.
.....toolman

[Mysuzyq]

i thank you for the correction. .....toolman

No problemo, toolman.....the 1150's performance figures were awesome at the time, and are still pretty respectable today.

....if you touch 50kph over that same limit on that same road then you are a incredibly dangerous and despicable criminal bastard, only barely worthy of being considered human.

A few weeks ago, I met a guy who's going through a very expensive legal defense against a street racing charge. He said it cost $800 to get his KZ1000 back from impound, and a couple thousand in legal fees to date. Apparently, the Crown's strategy is to bleed challengers financially....they have asked to delay the trial date twice so far, in order to better prepare their case (). Even if he is ultimately found not guilty, none of the bike towing/impound fees are refundable. I'm surprised there hasn't been a legal challenge against the premise of the law.

Tony.

[toolman]

thanks tony for the reply , and am i glad i dont live near a big city or in ontario .all you gsers in ontario, i invite you to come to bc and ride free of the big bad johnny law. .....toolman

[jwhelan65]

In a true drag race from a tree, the stock ZRX12 should beat a stock 1150 in the quarter- equal riders. The rolling start was a blessing for you! But make no mistake- the 1150 is an animal for sure.

Not a gamblin man but Id be willin to bet your Yami would out gun the both of them..

[Road_Clam]

I drove a ZRX, and those engines are engineered to be "user friendly" They have a slightly mellow power delivery to allow for "fun" generall cruising with the ocassional intent to get a little agressive in the corners. The ZRX's are a fantastic "do all" bike, however they are not a drag strip wepon.

[skip]

I drove a ZRX, and those engines are engineered to be "user friendly" They have a slightly mellow power delivery to allow for "fun" generall cruising with the ocassional intent to get a little agressive in the corners. The ZRX's are a fantastic "do all" bike, however they are not a drag strip wepon.

Do not under estimate the ZRX and its drag strip potential. I ran my ZRX against another GSR members GS1150E in 2004 . His 1150E was far from stock. It was 1229CC had cams, 38 mikuni flat slides, cam motion g-2 cams , mild head porting, and over sized valves. Dyna coils and ignition and a Vance and Hines electric shifter. My ZRX 1200 had a muzzy exhaust and a dale walker electric shifter . I will include the video of the three races we had that day in my next post. Now granted all races can be determined partly by the rider and other factors but the video will clearly show the ZRX was faster on that day. watch and enjoy

[TheCafeKid]

Not a gamblin man but Id be willin to bet your Yami would out gun the both of them..

Hrmmmm I might have to take that bet....

[skip]

Not a gamblin man but Id be willin to bet your Yami would out gun the both of them..

Ill bet it wont

[skip]

i owned a 02 ZRX with a slip it pulled 117 RWHP on the dyno at a 1/8 mile drag strip it turned 7.28 at 99 mph on a very hot 105 deg day. my 84 GS 1150 that i own now [ showroom stock] might have 105 HP at the rear wheel. so on paper the ZRX should be faster .
seat of the pants the ZRX felt faster, but the 1150 might be just as fast
i just love the looks of the ZRX. for a old bike the GS is awsume.

My best run on the ZRX was a 6.98 @103 with my stock ZRX in the 1/8th . I never ran my 1150 in the 1/8th when it was stock , but after all the motor work I ran a 6.84 @ 111 on the 1150.

[TheCafeKid]

Maybe Im crazy, but I dont think a bike that will roll on a throttle only wheel stand is geared to be "user friendly" The Rex is a formidable machine, torquey, pleanty powerfull, and if tinkered a bit with, a straight up BEAST. They arent the best corner carving machine out there, but still more capable than MOST of us would ever put to the test. I am having a hard time deciding between one of those or a B12, but im leaning toward the B12 for familiarity reasons, not so much product name. Either one, with a few bucks thrown at it, would chew up and spit out an FZ and still give you some change in your pockets.

[skip]

Here are the videos. The first video is the pre race, It stopped loading for some reason just as the race begins. The second video is the race but the quality is a litlle worse. We were up in Maine at an 1/8th mile track. I show up with my touring set up and set the bike up for the race. Listen to the difference in the sound of the two bikes. the 1150 sounds awsome! my ZRX sounds like a sewing machine. Listen as the 1150 does its burn out . I am in the far lane on the ZRx in the second video.


the pre race
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...-skip-long.flv then the race


http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...ke-vs-skip.flv


enjoy!

[mistertoadie]

That race was won at the start. The 1150 seemed to have serious traction problems or he was scared of it and eased it off the line. I would have liked to seen a full 1/4 mile run. No disrespect to you skip, Excellent ride.