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    I laid my fiance's cousin's 08 harley nightster down at a stop sign about an hour ago. first time I have ever been down on a bike. Owe him a couple hundred bucks worth of parts, and Ive got a big rash on my arm, leg and half my thumbnail is gone.

    He had JUST painted his bike custom, and he wanted me to take it aorund the block so he could look at it. I came to a stop sign going normal speed, and the brakes locked up, and I went down on the left side.

    Two things came out of this, which is why I am writing this now:

    -Priorities: I was not wearing a helmet, as I was just going around the block. I feel incredibly lucky I didnt do any more damage to my body then I did. I feel very different about helmet use now, and quite frankly, motorcycles. The scary part is that I am as cautious of a person as it gets, and it still happened. Very quick, and very powerless feeling.

    -Guilt: My fiance's cousin was stoic and stressed that the important thing was that I was ok. We looked at the damage done, and I let him know that I will pay for whatever needs to be done in cash to bring it back up to speed. He does paintjobs for a living, and he painted the bike himself, which is hard to put a price on. I feel so unbelievably guilty at this point, I really am beside myself. It is the CARDINAL sin in my book to violate someone else's property when they entrust it to you, whether it is a yard tool, or a motorcycle. the clutch lever needs to be replaced, the side mounted license plate bent, blinker cover scratched, battery cover scratched, shifter bent, and there is a dime sized scratch on the tank (gold flaked, lucky me). The shifter and the license plate bent back, we agreed the clutch lever needs to be replaced, but the ding in the gold flake paint is the part I feel most guilty about. He says its fine, but I can't accept that.


    All of this while I stopped by his house to borrow a ladder.

    I am writing this in hopes of feeling better. I am very ashamed with myself about this. Thanks for listening.

    #2
    yet another victim of the notorious sucky brakes harley has..touchy as all get out and lock up if you look at the brake lever or foot lever too hard...seen it bunches of times.
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      #3
      Was there gravel on the road ? Why did it lock up? I make it a point to NOT ride other peoples bikes.. For one I couldn't afford to fix it if anything happened...

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        #4
        may i venture a guess and tell everyone it was the front one that locked up.........gravel or not the harley brakes are notorious for being way too sensitive. if you dontknow this and just squeeze NORMALLY you actually are creating a disaster.
        Last edited by chuck hahn; 03-28-2010, 02:46 PM.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Demonthrall View Post
          I am writing this in hopes of feeling better. I am very ashamed with myself about this. Thanks for listening.
          Dont beat yourself up over it. He asked you to ride it. Not like you begged him to let you. Being that hes the painter...paint is the last thing I would worry about.

          Chalk it up to another lesson learned and may it never happen again. I dont borrow or use anything of anybodies. Very reluctant to lend my stuff either. I would have (and have) gone and bought my own ladder .
          82 1100 EZ (red)

          "You co-opting words of KV only thickens the scent of your BS. A thief and a putter-on of airs most foul. " JEEPRUSTY

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            #6
            Since you're ok some time very soon it will be the funny story.
            1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
            1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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              #7
              Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
              yet another victim of the notorious sucky brakes harley has..touchy as all get out and lock up if you look at the brake lever or foot lever too hard...seen it bunches of times.

              Ive ridden dozens of Harleys and never noticed any problems with the brakes....



              Sucks you laid the bike down, but the important thing is you are okay, and the owner of the bike sounds like he is a pretty level headed guy.

              Im sure you will get it taken care of and be laughing about it before you know it.

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                #8
                my brothers 88 ultra and my sister in laws 05 1200 sporster both have twitchy brakes..front and back.. barely touch them and they are tight. i have ridden both of them and i dont like their brakes. And i have been in many circles where he harley guys themselves complain about that very issue. If the guy is used to a more softer feeling brake and he gripped it like he is used to i can see very easily how he could have over compensated and locked it up.. he hasnt responded as far as i have seen to tell the details after pondering what went wrong from his viewpoint.
                MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                  #9
                  After some more pondering...

                  It was indeed the front brake that I locked up. the ashpalt had a slight dust on it, but nothing to normally worry about. The real issue is that I was used to my GS both in brake-ability and weight, and I did overcompensate. I was probably going 15 mph.

                  I rode his bike last summer twice, so this wasn't the first time on it. I definitely will think differently about riding other people's bikes now. I'm ashamed that it took me until I am 27 to realize this lesson, especially the hard way. I probably won't ever ride anyone else's bike again. I really have no desire to ride my bike for a while either, which sucks too.

                  Now I am remembering how badly it sucks to change bandages and shower with road rash. Havn't had it since I was a kid riding a bicycle.

                  My fiance's cousin is cool, we hang out with them almost every weekend, so he is no stranger. He stressed that he didn't want to make this a "thing."

                  Again, thanks for listening, its somewhat therapeutic to have come on here and talk about it.

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                    #10
                    Well it is good that you are ok. And amazing that this was your first wreck. My first and only wreck was the first day I got my bike...

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                      my brothers 88 ultra and my sister in laws 05 1200 sporster both have twitchy brakes..front and back.. barely touch them and they are tight. i have ridden both of them and i dont like their brakes. And i have been in many circles where he harley guys themselves complain about that very issue. If the guy is used to a more softer feeling brake and he gripped it like he is used to i can see very easily how he could have over compensated and locked it up.. he hasnt responded as far as i have seen to tell the details after pondering what went wrong from his viewpoint.
                      You mean the brakes......







                      Work?
                      1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                      1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                        #12
                        ITs cool now. The parts came to $176, and I wrote him a check for $250. He buffed out the paint, which he says is fine for the rest of the year, you can barely see it.

                        My rashe's are healing, I can shower now

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                          #13
                          That sucks, glad you are okay and the bike wasn't badly damaged. My first crash was similar but was on my own bike so I didn't have the added guilt of banging up someone else's stuff, which is probably the worst of it. I was initially afraid of my bike but as I had to ride it home the same night (I was adjusting the carbs at a friends house) I had no choice but to get right back on it. I'm glad I did because I think it would have made it worse if I hadn't. I guess my point is don't be afraid of your bike. Ride it even if you take it easy don't let the fear dominate.

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                            #14
                            Just be glad you are ok. You can fix the bike friend.

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                              #15
                              Hi Mr. Demonthrall,

                              It sounds like your fiancé's cousin is a decent guy. And you've done right by him. Yes, you feel bad about messing up someone else's stuff but that's because you're a decent guy too. This will turn out to be one of those family stories that gets told around the Christmas tree every year. It's a bonding experience. Now you both know how much you care for and respect each other. After all, you're family.

                              I'm sure you've learned to be extra careful when riding unfamiliar machinery. Even when I ride another GS, even if it's the exact same model, there are differences in brakes, tires, handling, etc, to be wary of. I'm glad you're healing up. Don't forget your helmet next time.

                              Thank you for your indulgence,

                              BassCliff

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