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    #31
    Originally posted by Hovmod View Post
    Thanks for all the well wishing.
    Today I awoke with high fever and a throat infection.
    I am adding budding fever to the causes of the crash.
    I was following my buddy, but not super close. Two seconds, maybe more.
    However, I was in the roundabout, and that caused me to spread my attention somewhat.
    When my buddy suddenly braked, this was unexpected. I had already processed his position and direction and so on, so when he stopped suddenly, I was unprepared.
    However, my front wheel locked up.

    While I take full blame for this crash, I do not agree that my position relative my buddy and my attention to my surroundings were the only factors.
    I wasn't trying to panic brake at all, and locking the wheel was unintended and unexpected.

    Explanations for this could include:

    -Tyres, which, although good looking and with good treads, were three years old. Not three seasons of hard riding, but three years eats rubber. I should have prioritized rubber.


    Tire age has very little to do with the installation date.
    Tires begin to age right after they leave the factory.

    It is possible that your tires were in dealer stock for two years before you got them.

    The manufacturing date (which is marked on the sidewall) is most important, but even though the bike has (apparently) spent most of its time parked, how/where the tire and bike have been stored can make a significant difference to tread hardening, with outdoor storage in open sunlight probably being the top of the list.




    -Just a couple of kilometers earlier, we were on a road with brand new asphalt, which may (or indeed may not) have altered the traction of the tyres somewhat. I thought about this while riding on the new road, and slowed down there, but did not think about it at the time of the crash.

    -There has been more accidents at this spot. It is not a genius piece of city planning... When I picked up my pieces, I found pieces from other vehicles as well. It is possible that the road was more slippery because of spills from recent previous accidents.

    -Unfamiliarity with the bike. Clearly. I have not ridden very much on it at all, and this was the first ride in months.

    -Rusty technique. I have not ridden much this season at all.


    Either of those things makes you a less safe rider, but together they can become problematic, and very often do, for many riders.

    All of us have to adjust to riding after a winter of down time, and even longer off the road means the skill level drops a bit more.

    This is the main reason so many riders go down in Spring.

    It is also the reason I hate and love my first ride of the season: I know I do not have the sharpness that was there last Fall, but the temptation is there........and it is SO easy to go too far, too soon.




    -Speed. I wasn't going stupid fast, but a little slower and I might not have crashed. I do not expect to learn from this. Fixing the two points above will fix this.



    That is just, plain, bad.

    Notwithstanding your comments below, which do not appear to have a lot of weight, if you have stopped yourself from learning, you are in great danger, and no matter that you got your licence in 1985, you really need to adjust your thinking, because EVERY incident should give a lesson, and it should be accepted.


    -Attention and mental acuity. This is where my feeble excuse of the budding fever comes in, and also that I did NOT expect the pedestrian that caused my buddy to stop. I had navigated the roundabout to the point where just when he stopped, I was ready to accelerate.

    All these factors, and probably more worked together so when I braked, my wheel slid away.


    Lessons learned?
    Hm. More space, sure. I always try to give myself sufficient space, and I try to look for options. This happened fast, but maybe I could have avoided it by letting one more car go through the roundabout.

    Most of all I'm very happy with how my safety gear kept me from further injuries, and that I (just) did not pose a threat to anyone else.

    I hope this doesn't read as a list of bad excuses. I was at fault. I'm just not ready to blame it all on one cause.


    Get well, soon.
    Bertrand Russell: 'Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education.'

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      #32
      Sorry, but if that was what you got from what I wrote about speed, you obviously read it with the wrong glasses on.
      If I weren't interested in learning from this I wouldn't have bothered even THINKING about this, much less write it down as honestly as I can and ponder out loud in a place like this.

      What I meant was that I was not IN ANY WAY going faster than I would normally consider perfectly safe, and also well within the speed limit, btw. If I had gone 5 kph I wouldn't have crashed. If I had taken the tram I wouldn't have crashed. Any other day, in the same location, even in the future, I won't go slower. Speed was only a factor because of all the other factors, and like I said: I plan to do something about those factors.

      Thanks

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        #33
        I'm happy to hear you're more annoyed than injured. Good trade off! hehe
        If the front wheel locks up in a turn, the only solution I know of to keep the bike from going down is to release the front brake. The problem is the trip down is so instant there may not be time to release the brake before you're on the ground. I escaped that predicament that way once, but it was more luck than skill or planning. LOL
        Komorebi-The light filtering through the trees.

        I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself than be crowded on a velvet cushion. H.D.T.

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          #34
          Well, I would say you've thoroughly analyzed the incident, now you can put it behind you and enjoy the process of bringing a bike back to it's former glory, and I'm sure you'll find some little upgrade or 2 to throw on there as well. "You know, as long as it's in the shop I might as well_______." You get the idea

          Glad to hear you're doing OK. Now get out there and start fixing it because isn't there only like 2 more weeks of summer left in Norway????

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            #35
            I have two months with my right arm in a cast to look forward to, which means this season is over. Can't wrench, can't ride.
            But I am already thinking about what to do with it, of course.

            I will ride next season.
            On fresh rubber and after doing braking exercises.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Hovmod View Post
              I have two months with my right arm in a cast to look forward to, which means this season is over. Can't wrench, can't ride.
              But I am already thinking about what to do with it, of course.

              I will ride next season.
              On fresh rubber and after doing braking exercises.
              Well crap! I didn't realize you were in a cast.
              Komorebi-The light filtering through the trees.

              I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself than be crowded on a velvet cushion. H.D.T.

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                #37
                Sorry for your off, I hope it doesn't hurt too much, and it all heals up quickly.
                Does this pedestrian leaping/emerging out of the hole in the hedge cause all the accidents?
                I wouldn't beat yourself up about it too much, far better to have a low speed off than the other kind, and those front wheel lock ups can happen really fast especially when there is a little bit of loose surface to start it off.
                I'm in favour of the the engine type bars they can save a lot in these low speed prangs.
                sigpic

                Don't say can't, as anything is possible with time and effort, but, if you don't have time things get tougher and require more effort.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by earlfor View Post
                  Well crap! I didn't realize you were in a cast.
                  Me too, it seemed like you were more dinged up than broken. Sorry man!

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                    #39
                    Pictures of the cast, or it didn't happen

                    Time to start buying parts and getting them shipped to you
                    1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                    1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                    1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                    1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                    1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                    1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                    2007 DRz 400S
                    1999 ATK 490ES
                    1994 DR 350SES

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                      #40
                      Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Sometimes unfortunate things just happen. Glad you was wearing full face helmet. You just convinced me on my next purchase. Hope you have a good recovery. After therapy you still have next season. But let your body heal and don't push it.

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                        #41
                        Had the surgery yesterday.
                        The ligament had snapped completely, and was reattached.
                        Pain meds aren't quite hacking it, tbh, but this too shall pass, I suppose.
                        Looking at 12 weeks minimum in cast or some sort of support, but the doc said expect 6 months for full recovery.

                        I asked him what he meant with "full" - can I play guitar, do my job, that sort of thing.
                        He said he had done the same procedure with success on a concert pianist and his own colleague, but if I was going to be doing stuff that required finer motor skills than piano concertos or hand surgery, he wouldn't give any guarantees.

                        Originally posted by Big T View Post
                        Pictures of the cast, or it didn't happen
                        Last edited by Guest; 08-16-2012, 03:27 AM.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by tatu View Post
                          Does this pedestrian leaping/emerging out of the hole in the hedge cause all the accidents?
                          Haha, good point.
                          Me locking the front wheel caused it.
                          At least I didn't slam into the suddenly emerging pedestrian...

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                            #43
                            Ligament surgery on a finger is not a lot of fun.
                            Make sure that you get to the exercises as soon as you can and don't let the pain stop you.

                            Eric

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Hovmod View Post
                              Had the surgery yesterday.
                              The ligament had snapped completely, and was reattached.
                              Pain meds aren't quite hacking it, tbh, but this too shall pass, I suppose.
                              Looking at 12 weeks minimum in cast or some sort of support, but the doc said expect 6 months for full recovery.

                              I asked him what he meant with "full" - can I play guitar, do my job, that sort of thing.
                              He said he had done the same procedure with success on a concert pianist and his own colleague, but if I was going to be doing stuff that required finer motor skills than piano concertos or hand surgery, he wouldn't give any guarantees.


                              Snapped ligament, ouch!

                              Maybe you should chime in on that healthcare thread over in OT, you got it fixed pretty fast
                              1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                              1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                              1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                              1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                              1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                              1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                              2007 DRz 400S
                              1999 ATK 490ES
                              1994 DR 350SES

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                                #45
                                Let me join the chorus in wishing you well, glad you had the gear on. Take care.
                                1980 GS1000E

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