Room for Neg on a Kawasaki Ninja 650 MSRP?

[JMHJ]

One of my boys who's done well with his money is about to spring for one of these as his first bike (like tomorrow, maybe). I was wondering if he could negotiate with them a bit, or not so much? I think the price is like $8600.

[650Skull]

Without the year mileage or condition of the bike, it's impossible to advise on the price.

[Nessism]

At $8600, it's clear that he's wanting to buy new. Actually, $8600 is above MSRP, so that's wrong. Anyway, the only way to know is to try. Play off various dealers in your area against one another for the best price. If you have cash, that helps to leverage the purchase.

[JMHJ]

Kinda what I was thinking, he could try, but I'm not familiar with the market, you know, sometimes there's no chance and sometimes they can't sell 'em all before the next model year comes out.

That reminds me about my 3rd GS - an '83 850L I bought from the original owner. I think he said it was a dealer leftover he bought in '86.

I see now that's 600 above the MSRP that came up when I searched it, so yeah. He's doing it all on his own, so if he pays full price w/o trying I guess he can put that in the experience category for if there's a next time.

Well, scratch that, this particular color with ABS has an MSRP of $8599 according to motorcycle.com

[Rob S.]

Forty + years ago I read a book titled "You Can Negotiate Anything," by Herb Cohen.

Highly recommend it.

[LAB3]

If you have cash, that helps to leverage the purchase.

Before I bought my XS I was looking for a Honda ST1100, a few places wanted different prices depending on whether you paid cash or credit with cash costing MORE. I've heard of that happening with cars too. Not sure if that's a way to set a bottom line price or for some other reason such as paperwork or whatever.

[Vmass]

Things are cooling down a bit now
witj the auto market. Anyone who has purchased a car in the past few years most likely paid MSRP+ market adjustment. People were having a ball with corvettes and 911’s, find a dealer that would order you one 10% above MSRP, drive it a few thousand miles and sell it for 30% above MSRP.

The FB groups were hilarious, same thing day in, day out.

“ You are an idiot for buying a used car 30-40% over MSRP “. Then comes 20 replies “ shut up if you can’t afford the car “

I doubt the bike market was that inflated, but who knows.

Dealers don’t like cash, they prefer their kick back from the lending institutions.

[rphillips]

Yes, cash for these deals doesn't mean what it yous'ta mean, though I had no idea why.

[JMHJ]

Well, he changed his mind and went for the ZX-6R KRT Edition. His mom wasn't happy about that right away, but if he can stay out of trouble I kind of think he did the right thing. It really looks nice, and has a cool factor the twin didn't (sound, perf. on tap whether you use it or not, etc.). It's got power settings so he can dial it back, traction control, ABS. That makes me feel a little better about it too. He said the 650 was a lot more comfortable though.

[argonsagas]

Well, he changed his mind and went for the ZX-6R KRT Edition. His mom wasn't happy about that right away, but if he can stay out of trouble I kind of think he did the right thing. It really looks nice, and has a cool factor the twin didn't (sound, perf. on tap whether you use it or not, etc.). It's got power settings so he can dial it back, traction control, ABS. That makes me feel a little better about it too. He said the 650 was a lot more comfortable though.

Both of those bikes are well outside of what might be called "beginner" class.

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You said nothing about his experience or skill level, but one hopes he is well-equipped with both.

For many riders, perhaps most, a major temptation is to "see what it will do"
When looking for a comparison of the two bikes, I found this comment:

"650R increases cup size by 1
zx6R increases cup size by 3"


I don't think it meant bra size.
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