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    Logistics at work in our modern world.

    Almost twenty years ago I drove my car onto a ferry in Toronto for a boat ride across Lake Ontario to Rochester NY..

    Not certain about the time, but I think it took the boat about 90 minutes to reach Rochester, NY... .

    On Monday this week I ordered a car part from Rock Auto who shipped the part from Rochester, NY via FedEx on Monday afternoon. . .

    FedEx tracking shows It travelled from Rochester NY to Newark, NJ .
    Then it went from Newark to Memphis, TN
    Today it is expected to come to Toronto from Memphis... almost three days and over two thousand miles. of travel.....by air.


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    Originally posted by argonsagas View Post
    Almost twenty years ago I drove my car onto a ferry in Toronto for a boat ride across Lake Ontario to Rochester NY..

    Not certain about the time, but I think it took the boat about 90 minutes to reach Rochester, NY... .

    On Monday this week I ordered a car part from Rock Auto who shipped the part from Rochester, NY via FedEx on Monday afternoon. . .

    FedEx tracking shows It travelled from Rochester NY to Newark, NJ .
    Then it went from Newark to Memphis, TN
    Today it is expected to come to Toronto from Memphis... almost three days and over two thousand miles. of travel.....by air.

    You have my sympathy. Anything I order, no matter where it comes from, goes to Atlanta, then it passes by my house (80 miles north of Tampa) and continues on to Tampa where it will be processed another two days before being sent out for delivery.
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      #3
      Memphis is Fed Ex main hub. Almost everything shipped in the continental U.S. via Fed Ex passes through Memphis. Pro tip here, if you ever visit Memphis and stay overnight do NOT stay near the airport.
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        #4
        Originally posted by marvinsc View Post
        Memphis is Fed Ex main hub. Almost everything shipped in the continental U.S. via Fed Ex passes through Memphis. Pro tip here, if you ever visit Memphis and stay overnight do NOT stay near the airport.
        I always thought Atlanta was FedEx's main hub?
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          #5
          Originally posted by trevor View Post

          I always thought Atlanta was FedEx's main hub?
          I believe Atlanta is main for UPS, DSL, and U S Mail.
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            #6
            New stuff sometimes just don't seem reasonable. I live in Norene, TN. appx. 12 mi. south of Lebanon tn., yrs. ago if I mailed something at our Norene post office to a Lebanon address, it went to Lebanon was sorted in Lebanon, then out for delivery. Today it goes from Norene to Lebanon then to Nashville, to be sorted then back to Lebanon to be sorted again then out for delivery... May be reasonable, but sure don't look look it.
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              Crazy old man jabber. The routing has to do with allocation of resources and shipping items in a cost effective manner.
              If you're so smart then calculate what a direct dedicated route to your door would add to shipping charges.
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                Originally posted by Cipher View Post
                Crazy old man jabber. The routing has to do with allocation of resources and shipping items in a cost effective manner.
                If you're so smart then calculate what a direct dedicated route to your door would add to shipping charges.
                After considering that suggestion, and not wishing to see anyone become even a wee bit irked by the topic, I think that if I added up all the world's various "irks" it would total out to irksum.



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                  Update

                  Canada Customs allows pre-clearance on small shipments, meaning you can submit documents and have them cleared before the plane arrives.
                  Rock Auto collects taxes on their invoice, and this is on their documents, so FedEx could deliver as soon as it comes off a plane in Toronto

                  The package just arrived......it took only about ninety hours by air.

                  Aaah for the days of old, and that ninety minute trip by boat

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                    Originally posted by argonsagas View Post
                    Update

                    Canada Customs allows pre-clearance on small shipments, meaning you can submit documents and have them cleared before the plane arrives.
                    Rock Auto collects taxes on their invoice, and this is on their documents, so FedEx could deliver as soon as it comes off a plane in Toronto

                    The package just arrived......it took only about ninety hours by air.



                    New York to Toronto by air, ninety hours, hmmmm must be a lot farther than I thought. LOL They must have stopped in Melbourne. lol
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                      I ordered tires Wednesday. I was expecting them here today! Nope, tracking says tomorrow. Gezz what you have to go through...

                      Remember UPS C.O.D.? What a pain that must have been for the drivers.
                      Or getting the notice on your door... Dang-it! I missed him!
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                        Originally posted by earlfor View Post

                        New York to Toronto by air, ninety hours, hmmmm must be a lot farther than I thought. LOL They must have stopped in Melbourne. lol
                        It started in Rochester, NY....which is physically about 100 miles from Toronto by air.....

                        Your comment reminded me of an old event that fully demonstrated the workings of Murphy's law when moving things by air. Everything that could go wrong did, with cancelled flights, missing and incorrect documents, interminable Customs delays coupled with interference from Authorities in several countries and having to move it by truck between airports in multiple directions. The total miles travelled would be more the circumference of Earth.
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                        It began in Toronto when a man wanted to send a small motorcycle to Saigon, Vietnam. His wife was being held in jail and would be killed if he did not provide the bribe to a local police chief by a certain date, so it was a vitally important shipment.

                        His problem was two-fold: one was the motorcycle itself as they are considered Dangerous Goods and they have to be crated, making them large in size. Additionally, some airlines will not carry DG items at all or will only put them on dedicated all-cargo aircraft. The second was that no airline in Toronto would accept it as there were no flights into Saigon at the time, with any major carrier. The last carrier operating in Canada to go there was Air France and they had just suspended all operations to/from Saigon indefinitely. Air France told him the only hope he had was with PIA, an airline that did not fly to Canada.

                        Communications between airlines around the world at that time were by Telex and that provided a means of arranging bookings on almost any airline. There are rules applicable to DGR and for charges in interline usage. Everything was used extensively for this shipment.

                        Due to the mentioned circumstances the bike had to go via a rather circuitous route and was booked initially to connect from Frankfurt with a flight on Interflug, a new-defunct airline that had a one-time special cargo flight planned to operate to SGN. from SXF in East Berlin.
                        The bike got there in time, but the connecting flight had some mechanical problems and was delayed for more than a day and then cancelled.
                        The bike had to come back to FRA and the problems began. .
                        It was flown to Pakistan, then China and when that connection failed due to Chinese Customs it was sent back.

                        Back to Pakistan for a planned connection via Bangkok. Authorities in BKK fouled things up and it had to be returned to Pakistan.

                        IF offered another flight from SXF, so it was returned there, but by the time it arrived, IF had suspended their flight operations completely.​
                        Back across Europe to Pakistan and then a flight to Manila, Philippines for connection on a charter aircraft.



                        The actual routing?
                        YYZ-JFK-FRA-SXF-FRA-KHI-ISB-PEK-ISB-KHI-BKK-KHI-AMS-FRA-SXF-FRA-AMS-KHI-MNL-SGN

                        With so many different government authorities, plus the necessary handling and arrangements for each leg, all of this took nearly two months, dozens of communication hours, and immense stress as the woman was within two days of being killed when the charter connection worked.


                        I would never wish a repeat on anyone.



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