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Originally posted by LAB3 View PostAre you SURE about that? True, there's been a few scuttlebutt's in that region during the course of their lifetimes but I'm not sure that equates to the experiences of a full out war. My grandfather served in the south pacific during WWII, I'm not sure that qualifies me to say I'm honestly battle-ready.
maybe I better explain that "blanket statement" I used to described the people of Ukraine.
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What I mean is, Ukrainians have seen conflict by living in the middle of it.
What kind of conflict? That is not easy to describe because WE Americans don't live there.
I did spend a year in Iraq from 2007-08 so I have seen Iraqis live their lives not knowing who is infiltrated (opposing clans) within their communities to target people they deem a threat. Although I lived inside the wire, there were Iraqis who went home outside the wire.
I can't compare Iraq to Ukraine because they are two totally different countries BUT the infiltration part may be a similarity.
I'm not saying Ukrainians are battle-tested...just familiar with conflict because they live in it.
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Originally posted by GSXR7ED View PostHmmm...
maybe I better explain that "blanket statement" I used to described the people of Ukraine.
<Well-familiar with war>
What I mean is, Ukrainians have seen conflict by living in the middle of it.
What kind of conflict? That is not easy to describe because WE Americans don't live there.
I did spend a year in Iraq from 2007-08 so I have seen Iraqis live their lives not knowing who is infiltrated (opposing clans) within their communities to target people they deem a threat. Although I lived inside the wire, there were Iraqis who went home outside the wire.
I can't compare Iraq to Ukraine because they are two totally different countries BUT the infiltration part may be a similarity.
I'm not saying Ukrainians are battle-tested...just familiar with conflict because they live in it.
Ed
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Originally posted by bccap View PostOh peachy ..... The wing nut just got wingier ..... A little birdie is telling me the Russian fail safe system isn't as good as the Yank's .......
https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...e5a2f936725550
I assume he's safe in a bunker afraid of assassins. Bunkered leadership never ends well.
So now if Ukraine holds for several days it may come down to high level mutinies
I can't see putin surviving if this drags on. He will be hung by his heels if it fails outright.1983 GS 550 LD
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Belarusian special forces are loading onto airplanes in preparation for an air assault on Kyiv in what would be a widening of the war, military sources have claimed.
Ukrainian intelligence has reportedly learned from within Belarus that ‘special ops’ troops have been spotted loading up planes for a major attack.Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
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Increasing anti war in Ukraine protests in Russia.
As Russian troops were closing in on the Ukrainian capital, more and more Russians spoke out Saturday against the invasion, even as the government's official rhetoric grew increasingly harsher. According to OVD-Info, rights group that tracks political arrests, at least 460 people in 34 cities were detained over anti-war protests on Saturday, including over 200 in Moscow. Open letters condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine kept pouring, too.Komorebi-The light filtering through the trees.
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Ongoing developments in Ukraine. Putin's days are getting darker and shorter.
As Russian troops were closing in on the Ukrainian capital, more and more Russians spoke out Saturday against the invasion, even as the government's official rhetoric grew increasingly harsher. According to OVD-Info, rights group that tracks political arrests, at least 460 people in 34 cities were detained over anti-war protests on Saturday, including over 200 in Moscow. Open letters condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine kept pouring, too.Komorebi-The light filtering through the trees.
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McMaster added that Putin had failed to understand that Ukraine is not an autocratic regime where a political decapitation would be effective.
"The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. They're fighting for democracy. They're fighting for one another and their sovereignty and that just doesn't go away"
As I said previously, the Ukrainians aren't going anywhere. They're home, are going to stay the course and are not inclined to return to a system of Russian boots on their backs. I think Putin greatly misjudged their resolve in thinking he would run over them in 2 or 3 days and it would be a done deal.
H.R. McMaster, who served as former President Trump's national security adviser, said on Sunday that Russian President Vladimir Putin "got a lot more than he bargained for" when he invaded Ukraine last week.Appearing on CBS's "Face the Nation," McMaster said Ukrainian forces have done a "tremendous" job."I think Putin got a lot more than he bargained for. He's in a very difficult position," McMaster told host Margaret Brennan. "And I think...Komorebi-The light filtering through the trees.
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Remember when Bush the Younger said he looked into Putin's eyes and saw good? He was fooled because Putin knew a few quotes from the bible.
To a man, every other person who has looked into Putin's eyes has seen evil. Or a blank nothingness. Or, to quote Mitt Romney, "I saw the KGB."1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
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Although I'm tempted to comment on Shrubs ability to judge good from evil it's more important to note that those who operate without objective observers to provide feedback often create fantasies they cannot escape from.1980 Yamaha XS1100G (Current bike)
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Would anyone care to comment on whether or not these guys are telling the truth, which seems to be that Putin, anticipating a walk in the park, sent in trans Ural troops with a story about an exercise?
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Originally posted by Brendan W View PostWould anyone care to comment on whether or not these guys are telling the truth, which seems to be that Putin, anticipating a walk in the park, sent in trans Ural troops with a story about an exercise?
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