Ukraine russia invasion predictions

[earlfor]

Didn't need that article, thought that would've made it here a long time ago?

Forget what biden said ???

What exactly was it that Biden said relative to Pilot's posted article and how/why did it negate further information being needed?

[earlfor]

The history lesson the Russians failed to learn.

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/history-lesson-russians-failed-learn-162122287.html

[earlfor]

The world economic situation, sanctions, the war in Ukraine, they're all intertwined.
The Chinese government just had the sort of impact on markets that the Federal Reserve can only dream about. In short, good news.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/thi...ay-51647425887

[earlfor]

I'm thinking China will intervene some time after the Russian economy tanks, they'll be in a better position to pull more strings.

I doubt China, by any stretch, wants to be seen as neo Russian. It would destroy their markets and world standing.

[earlfor]

A timeline of Ukraine preparation for war with Russia. It shows why they have been as successful as they have. I found it particularly interesting.

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-secret-cia-training-program-in-ukraine-helped-kyiv-prepare-for-russian-invasion-090052743.html

[trent]

Sooner or later every country will be going to war over this...
sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do..
It's gonna be bad.....but ya just can't let this go on without doing anything

WWW3 ????

[RichDesmond]

Good article on "the Dictator Trap"

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/putin-dictator-trap-russia-ukraine/627064/

the Ezra Klein Podcasts are very good, here's one with Timothy Snyder, a historian and leading expert on Ukraine. I've read two of his books, "Bloodlands" and "On Tyranny", both excellent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/15/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-timothy-snyder.html

That may be behind a paywall, not sure. I read the transcripts as that's a lot faster. He also did an interview with Fiona Hill last week, also very good.

[LAB3]

I doubt China, by any stretch, wants to be seen as neo Russian. It would destroy their markets and world standing.

My point on that one is that it could provide influence to get Russia to back out of the Ukraine.

[bccap]

I doubt China, by any stretch, wants to be seen as neo Russian. It would destroy their markets and world standing.

Here's a good article on the China Russia relationship ......

https://www.economist.com/china/chinas-friendship-with-russia-has-boundaries-despite-what-their-leaders-say/21808197

[earlfor]

Good article on "the Dictator Trap"

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/putin-dictator-trap-russia-ukraine/627064/

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Rather enjoyed that one. heh

[LAB3]

Rather enjoyed that one. heh

Sounds a lot like the engineering firm I worked for in the early 90's. They where at the top of their game until "The old man" (owner) died and his son took over.

[earlfor]

Here's a good article on the China Russia relationship ......
https://www.economist.com/china/chin...s-say/21808197

China supporting the Soviets is an economic lose for China. Internally, they overwhelmingly support Putin, but they won't show that internationally if they can help it. They can lose Russia and it would hardly bother them financially, but losing world trade would be a very serious problem and Russia is not a large enough market to compensate.

[bccap]

For some strange reason this caricature is apparently banned in Russia .....

[bwringer]

The Chinese are the all-time masters of bureaucracy, the long con, and playing all sides of an issue, and they think in centuries, not quarterly revenue. They might send a few old trucks or something, just enough to string the Russians along.

Basically they'll stall until whatever happens happens, then make money and gain influence from it. Post-Putin Russia will need a LOT of goods and machinery to rebuild the shambles of their economy, so they'll sign any old promise to get what they need. China can't lose here. No one else will trust Russia at all for a long time.

China has long been in the process of loan sharking on a grand scale in Africa -- they're pouring resources into building infrastructure and influence, knowing full well that the leaders they're dealing with don't care about actually making payments and will default, then China can secure whatever terms they want from the next guy.

Russia is an even tastier plum; a well-educated, skilled workforce, suddenly thrown into vast disarray, with a nearly valueless currency, and desperate to agree to anything to get the necessities of daily life. They will very likely not trust Europe or North America in the least, and the feeling will be mutual.

[Gorminrider]

The Chinese are the all-time masters of bureaucracy, the long con, and playing all sides of an issue, and they think in centuries, not quarterly revenue.

haha. "think in centuries" No- a turbulent history like the rest of us. I'd be more inclined to, "...and how does this affect us?" We've heard that Putin is motivated by History so you can as easily apply it to China, in spades. And Europe.

But if they are the master race, I surrender!