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The scooter came from the previous owners father, not mine and was originally purchased in the Virgin Islands so that lead is a ni ho... . If it was my dad's, it probably would have survived us kids....
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When consulting the magic 8 ball for advice, one must first ask it "will your answers be accurate?"
Glen
-85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
-Rusty old scooter.
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There's a fancy town nearby with a fancy candy store. We stopped in with the kids earlier this year. It has a chocolate fountain where one can get a syringe full of liquid chocolate. Long after the kids were done with the chocolate and syringe, one found a good use today. Small funnel. I knew it would come in handy, although I pictured it being used to suck brake fluid out of something.
Exhaust on, oil in, gas in, electric issues. Grounds I suspect.
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When consulting the magic 8 ball for advice, one must first ask it "will your answers be accurate?"
Glen
-85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
-Rusty old scooter.
Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
https://www.instagram.com/glen_brenner/
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Learing experience, success, failure....
I rechecked my wiring before calling it an early night last night. As simple as the thing is, I figured all of the stuff at the handlebars didnt matter a wit regarding spark, excepting the red wire that grounds when the button its connected to is pushed to shut it down. It was making electric, as the horn sounded when held on during kicks (spark plug out allowed inertia to carry the engine thru several revolutions per kick) . One clue stuck with me all day though - if I held the kill switch down and released it during kicks, the plug would spark once. My knowledge of points is very minimal. Even my three 60s cars had been converted to electronic ignition, but I figured - or swerved into the fix- that whatever opens and dumps the coil voltage to the plug may not be....
I pulled the generator cover and attempted to pull the rotor, but didnt have a small 2 arm puller.... after looking at it stupidly for a bit I noticed that the points are accessible thru openings in the rotor.... and they werent opening when the engine turns. I adjusted then to have.... a gap. Retested, and the 50 year old Chinese spark plug properly sparked.. and shocked me.
I got it started and rode 3/4 of the way around the block then it died. Fuel delivery issue. Then while kicking it, something in the engine clanked and now the kickstarter doesn't return, and the spring is now biased down instead of up.... gotta pull the sidecover off of the oil side of the engine.... I may not have to pull the engine though.
After the gap was opened.
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When consulting the magic 8 ball for advice, one must first ask it "will your answers be accurate?"
Glen
-85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
-Rusty old scooter.
Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
https://www.instagram.com/glen_brenner/
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One of my fears came true. Need parts. The kickstart return spring broke. This should be fun....
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When consulting the magic 8 ball for advice, one must first ask it "will your answers be accurate?"
Glen
-85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
-Rusty old scooter.
Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
https://www.instagram.com/glen_brenner/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152267...7713345317771/Comment
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Love this thread ...."Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
~Herman Melville
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1982 CB900fComment
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...and you were having all sorts of good luck before this....{there's only two kinds of luck...}
1- I'd suggest the old "match book" thickness trick for point gap setting and maybe a point file in there wouldn't hurt to clean up the point contact surfaces.
2- "push start" it for now?Comment
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Depending upon which way the spring flexes (compression or elongation) you might be able to sleeve the two ends of the broken spring. If the spring is compressed under load this will work. If it is the other way you would probably have to weld the sleeve.Originally posted by dorkburger View PostOne of my fears came true. Need parts. The kickstart return spring broke. This should be fun....
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Looking at it and assuming the inner point is fixed and the outer is pinned to the kick lever...and that the kick start lever moves CCW {backwards} from this view, I'd say it compresses.Comment
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Repair or replace-
Here's one that looks like the same bends...but coil diameters, depth, and wire sizes vary...
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You could also search the web for a manufacturer that makes the springs...here's one...
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I’ve used TheSpringStore to get replacements for external fork springs on a Suzuki two stroke from the 1960s.
They also sell torsion springs & may have something that matches up close enough.
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Thanks, you guys rock.
I went to bed last night thinking that there are thousands of springs used in thousands of applications....
Just a matter of finding one that will work. I got as far as looking up spring types, etc. I did wonder if fixing that one was even a legitimate thought.
And as much as ebay sucks at times, I'm occasionally shocked at what can be found. No spring, but a guy in Italy has full engine gasket kits, a set of NOS brake pads, a set of clutch fibers / steels and a lifetime plus supply (box of 30) of points. I'd buy it all if I could.Last edited by dorkburger; 10-21-2017, 05:03 PM.sigpic
When consulting the magic 8 ball for advice, one must first ask it "will your answers be accurate?"
Glen
-85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
-Rusty old scooter.
Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
https://www.instagram.com/glen_brenner/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152267...7713345317771/Comment
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Lol, glad you have a direction then...I can relate to an extent. 30 some years ago I was trying to find 392 hemi parts for a motor I had {wish I still had it!} and those parts were impossible to find in any decent shape - or affordable if they were there. Then I tried my hand on kawi H-2s and low and behold, I had a knack for finding another piece that had a dismal following for certain parts as well....now one can find parts for either {well, sort of easier}. Go figure.....
"Welding the kick spring" back together would worry me...you'd loose tensile strength in that area from the heat used to weld it and possibly make a new weak spot to bend or break. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it'd be like trying to weld the typical early hemi head crack that happened when they overheated..50/50 shot on the repair lasting. Sorry...back to Glenn's build....Comment
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Maybe a kick start spring from a dirt bike would be the same size and bend on the ends?Comment
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