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    Cracked cross member on frame

    I accidentally noticed there is a very clear crack where the tree stand mount is. It is a cross member and part of the structural integrity of the frame. If it breaks, it will warp the frame. Can it be welded without removing the motor? I can reach it by hand.
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    I would say "weld it", but am curious where the "tree stand mount" is.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Steve View Post
      I would say "weld it", but am curious where the "tree stand mount" is.

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        #4
        Cracked tree stand... I wouldn't worry about it till next Christmas. Just joking of course. I would like more information to make sure mine is not also cracked...
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          #5
          I think it is fortunate that you "accidentally noticed" the crack.... that could have been disastrous if it had came undone while riding.
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            #6
            I would say that this thread in "Worthless without pictures"

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              #7
              Originally posted by posplayr View Post
              I would say that this thread in "Worthless without pictures"

              Will be back in a few minutes

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                #8
                Here it is:



                can that be welded where it is, or do I need to remove the engine?

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                  #9
                  I think it is fortunate that you "accidentally noticed" the crack.... that could have been disastrous if it had came undone while riding.
                  Me too. I was actually looking for where the wires plugged into the stator when I noticed it.

                  I hit a very deep pothole (at 2 a.m.) about two weeks ago. I was sure I knocked something loose. I didn't see it then.

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                    #10
                    Hopefully the pothole did not do the damage. If it did, I'd be checking the rims, too.

                    The crack is easy enough to see, but I am having difficulty picturing just where that is.

                    The engine is easy to see, it looks like it might need to come out to get access to the back side of the crack.

                    However, I am NOT a welder, and don't know if a good welder has those limitations.

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                    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
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                      #11
                      Sorry for the "tree stand" comment - I don't know why I call it that ... I just do. It's the center stand.

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                        #12
                        I'd have a closer look and maybe tap around that area with a wrench or small hammer to check that the frame didn't crack due to internal rusting. Looks like more than a simple crack ....sure hope I'm wrong.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Steve View Post
                          Hopefully the pothole did not do the damage. If it did, I'd be checking the rims, too.

                          The crack is easy enough to see, but I am having difficulty picturing just where that is.

                          The engine is easy to see, it looks like it might need to come out to get access to the back side of the crack.

                          However, I am NOT a welder, and don't know if a good welder has those limitations.

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                          If it is on a lift, a welder can reach it without engine removal. But, I don't have a lift.

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                            #14
                            ((sighs)) I have another parts bike that is rust free - I really don't want to do a transfer on to it ... plus, changing the title.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sandy View Post
                              I'd have a closer look and maybe tap around that area with a wrench or small hammer to check that the frame didn't crack due to internal rusting. Looks like more than a simple crack ....sure hope I'm wrong.
                              yes, it is internal rusting, but looks (and appears and feels) to be that area. It is a hollow steel tube.

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