Hey Goldwing Guru's

[Vmass]

Is it common and acceptable that an older gold wing smoke a bit on startup or is it n indication of it needing some attention. I understand it is a vague question, just something I read. Thanks

[Wingsconsin]

Many time the old Wing will puff a bit of smoke on first start up
More often when it has been parked on the side stand - the rings on the low (left) side seem to leak a bit of oil on
those horizontal cylinders ; if the compression is good -- no worries -
If the smoke is WHITE and sweet smelling than worry about head gasket (4 cylinder wings did this)
But a puff of blueish is not uncommon in my experience and I have owned 2 - 4 cylinder Wings and 4 - 6 cylinder Wings.

[chuck hahn]

Yes..theres actually a service bulletin that I will find and post shortly.

[Vmass]

Many time the old Wing will puff a bit of smoke on first start up
More often when it has been parked on the side stand - the rings on the low (left) side seem to leak a bit of oil on
those horizontal cylinders ; if the compression is good -- no worries -
If the smoke is WHITE and sweet smelling than worry about head gasket (4 cylinder wings did this)
But a puff of blueish is not uncommon in my experience and I have owned 2 - 4 cylinder Wings and 4 - 6 cylinder Wings.

Yes, I also read that sitting on the side stand could be part of the issue. Thanks

[chuck hahn]

And here ya go..see item #1.

http://www.ngwclub.com/File%20Share/1000tsb/service.pdf

EDIT....By "older" what year are you talking about???

[Vmass]

And here ya go..see item #1.

http://www.ngwclub.com/File%20Share/1000tsb/service.pdf

EDIT....By "older" what year are you talking about???

Thanks Chuck....77'

[chuck hahn]

Yup..thats what they do. keep it on the center stand and remember that you must manually shut the fuel off every time..its not vac operated.

[Vmass]

Great info...Thanks

[chuck hahn]

Short runs away from the bike like going to the store or something doesnt pose a problem as far as the gas or oil seep is considered. But if its gonna set all day at work or for a period of time its wise to be sure the fuel is in the OFF position and its on the center stand.

[smilinbrad]

this was pretty common on the 3 and 4 cylinder BMW's when left of the side stand.
If the compression checks out I wouldn't worry about it.

[chuck hahn]

Hey Rich...go to this forum and the home page has many links to articles and things about the old wings.

http://www.ngwclub.com/

[Wingsconsin]

AS I remember on my GL1200 if I would shut it off, then sit on it upright for about 30 seconds, and then place it on the side stand; and it would not "puff" -
BUT - If I shut it off, kicked down the side stand and got off - it would "puff" -- The extra 30 seconds of being upright allowed the oil to run down enough was my theory - just as I remember it from 12 years ago....
The GL1100 my son had 3 years ago NEVER puffed smoke of any kind ; but the previous owner had done a near complete refurb on the top ends of the engine when doing he head gasket due to a coolant leak. ...

[chuck hahn]

Doing a head gasket cant get you into the rings which is where the oil seeps past. To do rings the engine must be pulled and the cases split. Best that can be done when a head is off is the head gasket and new valve stem seals. When i first got mine it sat on the center stand on the lift for a few weeks as I did the maintenance so I could ride it down to Texas for the Harvest Classic.

It ran flawlessly and not a whisp from the pipes. It sat for two days on the side stand..and at an increased lean from the slope it was parked on ...and soon as I started it to come back home it was like the thickest oil smoke i had ever seen. This is when i went on the NGW forum and found the service bulletins and got the reassurance my engine hadnt mysteriously imploded.

[Vmass]

The one I was hoping to grab fell through. Going to look at another that has been sitting for a long time! Anything out of the ordinary with the GW sitting for a long time?

[chuck hahn]

Bout the same as a Gs..carbs first off need cleaned and new orings on the jets and plenum seal, adjust the valves, check the timing belts and points. Drain the block and do the flush and fill procedure.