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    85 zx600 ninja

    I can grab one up thats been setting years due to a bad starter clutch. He has all the gaskets and rebuild kit but just isnt ever gonna dig in and fix it,. Its the blue paint. Its all there 100% and the paint is a 8 out of 10.....its not all beat up though.

    Question is is it worth the 500 bucks he wants? It would for sure be a project that in the end will be sold. Im not into a flip for profit deal just would like to get what i put in out of it. That being said (since i have no knowledge of the following of this bike) what would you guys say a running and ridable vintage ninja is worth? I was told the early ones are what everyone is interested in. Any truth to that?
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

    #2
    A think the GPZ 550s are a lot more "collectible" than the early Ninja 600s are. Not sure this one would be worth bothering with.
    '20 Ducati Multistrada 1260S, '93 Ducati 750SS, '01 SV650S, '07 DL650, '01 DR-Z400S, '80 GS1000S, '85 RZ350

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      #3
      I had one and liked it. That year is good looking-though not nearly as potent as the next version (only a little more than a year later), but it is a great looking bike, handles well, and should be somewhat collectible due to its status as the very first Ninja 600.
      "Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
      ~Herman Melville

      2016 1200 Superlow
      1982 CB900f

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        #4
        So 85 was first year for ninjas?? didnt know that.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
          Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
          So 85 was first year for ninjas?? didnt know that.
          For the 600, yep.
          "Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
          ~Herman Melville

          2016 1200 Superlow
          1982 CB900f

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            #6
            Why not flip for profit? You have the skills and work ethic so why not. Save the profit for your next project.

            I would think that it would be worth an easy $1500 in running condition, maybe more. I'd do it assuming it has lowish mileage and doesn't need tons of extras.
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

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              #7
              WARNING
              I used to work in the industry as a tech although not for Kawasaki. But I do know from experience that virtually EVERY Kawasaki 4 stroke from the 85-86 era had bad intake valves. Hard facing was too thin. The valves sink into the seats. I've had to do top ends on Ninja 250, Ninja 600, Ninja 1000 ,KLR650 from the era. I spent many hours on the phone to Kawasaki arguing about getting some kind of reimbursement. Kawasaki simply could not admit the extent of the problem because it would have cost millions. So, although I really like those old 600s, be fully prepared to do a complete head job with at least, New valves.

              Mad
              83 GS750E
              2006 ZX14
              2004 KTM 450 EXC
              2001 Yamaha Big Bear

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                #8
                He mentioned something about having to have the top end gone through at one point. If i decide to grab it ill probe for more info on that topic..thanks.
                MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Maddevill View Post
                  WARNING
                  I used to work in the industry as a tech although not for Kawasaki. But I do know from experience that virtually EVERY Kawasaki 4 stroke from the 85-86 era had bad intake valves. Hard facing was too thin. The valves sink into the seats. I've had to do top ends on Ninja 250, Ninja 600, Ninja 1000 ,KLR650 from the era. I spent many hours on the phone to Kawasaki arguing about getting some kind of reimbursement. Kawasaki simply could not admit the extent of the problem because it would have cost millions. So, although I really like those old 600s, be fully prepared to do a complete head job with at least, New valves.

                  Mad
                  Definitely seen that happen with Ninja 900s and KLR 650s, but I haven't known anyone who had similar issues with the Ninja 600.
                  "Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
                  ~Herman Melville

                  2016 1200 Superlow
                  1982 CB900f

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                    #10
                    From what i can find it seems i can do the starter clutch just like i did it on my 83 KZ750 L3. remove clutch and basket, drop oil pan, and remove secondary shaft. Starter clutch "SHOULD" drop out the bottom. Any input on this guys?
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      #11
                      Why do you have to remove the clutch basket?
                      Ed

                      To measure is to know.

                      Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                      Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                      Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                      KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                        #12
                        To get to the right side bearing retainer plate screws, Those and the oil pump screws. I got a way to lean the bike almost to a 45 angle and just reach in and jump clutch off the primary chain.

                        EDIT... I would be removing it anyways because yu know those steals and fibers are fused together and need pried apart.
                        Last edited by chuck hahn; 01-10-2021, 09:00 PM.
                        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                          From what i can find it seems i can do the starter clutch just like i did it on my 83 KZ750 L3. remove clutch and basket, drop oil pan, and remove secondary shaft. Starter clutch "SHOULD" drop out the bottom. Any input on this guys?
                          From memory they're the same layout. But I'd count it as a bench job. IMO too much potential to lose a spacer or a roller from the secondary shaft bearings.
                          But hey, if you've done it once....

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                            #14
                            Yeah i did the KZ a few months ago. Ended up that one of the plungers that goes over the spring stuck in the hole causing the clutch to fail. Whole deal only took an hour and a half.
                            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                              #15
                              Chuck I think those are due for a huge jump in collectablity, and vintage race popularity.
                              I've been riding my 87 CBR600 for 2 years and love it.
                              1982 GS1100G- road bike
                              1990 GSX750F-(1127cc '92 GSXR engine)
                              1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane

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