GR650 Tempter starter problem

[oldrookie]

Sounds very much like what mine was doing when I bought it.

Mine made all the right noises, but wasn't spinning enough to shoot the starter shaft out. That is why I was asking earlier in the thread if the starter had tested okay.

In my starter the brushes were completely shot. A bunch of dust fell out of the case as soon as I took the rear end cap off.

I rebuilt it and it ate another set of brushes. Commutator was badly grooved and it just destroyed the brushes. Best price and service I found to buy the rebuild kit was dbelectric out of Tennessee.

Ended up buying a used starter from old_skool. Has worked like a charm since.

You can test it before putting it all back together. Check out the procedure on Basscliff's site. Saves a lot of effort putting it in and taking it out.

[78gs750e]

True about the brushes we checked them in ours and they were fine, but they do need to be inspected

[oldrookie]

That's good news. Just thought I'd save you some trouble based on the numerous mistakes I've made with mine.

[Barneycanoe]

Thanks for all the good advice!

Dave

ps OldRookie...where on BassCliff's site - I can't see anything appropriate

[oldrookie]

Thanks for all the good advice!

Dave

ps OldRookie...where on BassCliff's site - I can't see anything appropriate

Sorry, Barneycanoe. Best I can find is this http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...-ends.html#A10

Thought I had seen a video on how to test through a link on his site. I spent a lot of time looking for the procedure and must have confused myself.

Fairly simple process anyway. Take starter out. Take the battery out and hook set of jumper cables up as follows

1. Negative battery connection to one of the bolt brackets at the back of the starter.

2. Connect the positive jumper cable to the battery positive.

3. Hold starter down with a foot or, better yet, clamp it down.

4. Touch the positive end of the jumper cable to the positive connection on the side of the starter case. Make sure the starter is restrained before doing so!

5. If all is good the starter will immediately spin up and the shaft will spin out from the starter.

Here's an example from another bike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lH5ZFF9dAY

[oldrookie]

Thanks for all the good advice!

Dave

ps OldRookie...where on BassCliff's site - I can't see anything appropriate

Sorry, Barneycanoe.

Thought I had seen a video on how to test through a link on his site. I spent a lot of time looking for the procedure and must have confused myself.

Fairly simple process anyway. Take starter out. Take the battery out and hook set of jumper cables up as follows

1. Negative battery connection to one of the bolt brackets at the back of the starter.

2. Connect the positive jumper cable to the battery positive.

3. Hold starter down with a foot or, better yet, clamp it down.

4. Touch the positive end of the jumper cable to the positive connection on the side of the starter case. Make sure the starter is restrained before doing so!

5. If all is good the starter will immediately spin up and the shaft will spin out from the starter.

Here's an example from another bike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lH5ZFF9dAY

[Barneycanoe]

After reassembly - no joy

Still have the same problem. A click, then what sounds like an attempt to turn over the bike, then the whirring noise of the starter/pinion spinning freely.

What a pain.

Dave

[Mekanix]

I've seen regular automotive starters do that when the bendix drive fails and the ball bearings inside get caught in the casing. They jam up and stop the gear from spiraling out. But when you play with it, everything seems normal. Its just that under load they jam up in the half way position.

[Barneycanoe]

Got starter properly rebuilt (IE I took it to a pro). THey turned it and replaced the ebay brushes.

At first it made the same noise but after leaning bike to right and starting, it now works great!

Thanks for all the help.

Dave