APE Heavy Duty Clutch Hub Nut

[Turtleface]

I've got one on the way, along with my rebuilt Gorilla clutch basket, new clutch springs, and new clutch frictions. I destroyed the wire that holds in the last steel plate in the clutch pack, and I was wondering if I should order a new locking washer for the hub nut at the same time I order that retaining wire? Or will Loctite + HD Hub Nut suffice?

[Nessism]

I'd definetly get a new lock washer.

[blowerbike]

a folding washer is a must with helical gears.
hell 1150's started using a concave washer behind the folding washer to help the loosening hub nut problem even more.
straight cut is a different story as there is no side load to loosin the hub nut.

[rapidray]

The retaining wire that holds the last steel plate in goes in the trash! Ray.

[Turtleface]

The retaining wire that holds the last steel plate in goes in the trash! Ray.

Is it completely unnecessary? Or do you need a new one each time. I've got a new one on the way, regardless..

[chef1366]

You'll have to make sure the wave washer is centered in the other washer. (the one that gives the clutch pack some tension)
I put one together once w/out the piano wire and it wasn't centered and I had to take it back apart.

[rapidray]

Don't put the wire back in unless you are just bored & have nothing better to do. I have NEVER replaced one & have had no problems. Even when I was a Suzuki dealer mechanic we never put them back. Just pay attention when you are reinstalling the clutch plates & it will be fine. If you are worried, put a small amount of grease on the wave washer to hold it in place while you reassemble. Ray.

[chef1366]

Don't put the wire back in unless you are just bored & have nothing better to do. I have NEVER replaced one & have had no problems. Even when I was a Suzuki dealer mechanic we never put them back. Just pay attention when you are reinstalling the clutch plates & it will be fine. If you are worried, put a small amount of grease on the wave washer to hold it in place while you reassemble. Ray.

That's what I did!

[Turtleface]

Sounds good. Still have a week or so until I get my clutch hub back, getting all my knowledge together, and prepping the bike for reassembly. After having most of the bike apart over the past two months or so, I'm not nearly as intimidated by all these little parts and gears and what-have you. Now, I'd better run out while I still can and pick up a pair of snap ring pliers so I can swap out these oil pump gears for 750 pieces.

[Nessism]

What about using thread locker on the nut in addition to the folding tab washer?

PS: bought some 1150 nuts because they are cheaper than the APE jobbies and are reputed to be stronger (according to Terry (blowerbike)) than the regular GS hub nuts.

[Turtleface]

What about using thread locker on the nut in addition to the folding tab washer?

PS: bought some 1150 nuts because they are cheaper than the APE jobbies and are reputed to be stronger (according to Terry (blowerbike)) than the regular GS hub nuts.

Yeah, I get a little crazy with the red Loctite, myself. I'm really paranoid about things backing off, for no particular reason. I suppose it's just because I hate doing a job twice. Now, I have to find the resolve to get done with scraping the old petrified gaskets off the engine. Stator cover down, oil pan and clutch cover to go. These gasket remnants are nearly as stiff as the engine case.

[Nessism]

Yeah, I get a little crazy with the red Loctite, myself. I'm really paranoid about things backing off, for no particular reason. I suppose it's just because I hate doing a job twice. Now, I have to find the resolve to get done with scraping the old petrified gaskets off the engine. Stator cover down, oil pan and clutch cover to go. These gasket remnants are nearly as stiff as the engine case.

Dabbing on a little paint remover works to help soften the old gaskets. It's still a chore, but a little less so with some chemical assistance.