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    Hey guys. When I first picked up my 85 gs450. It was easy to get in to neutral 1 and 2. Now all of a sudden wen I come to a stop sign and try to put it in to 1 then neutral it won't come out of gear to neutral. Unless I do it at second before I stop and in a new rider and not use to this bike at all yet. I'm thinking the clutch may need to me adjusted not sure tho. Thanks for any help

    #2
    Check your chain adjustment first old mate . That's how my old girl lets me know I've been a bit slack .

    Cheers , Simon .
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    '79 GS1000S my daily ride in Aus

    '82 (x2) GS650ET in the shed

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      #3
      Ok how tight should the chain be. It looks a bit stretched where can I get a new one and how much do they run

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        #4
        Cable adjustment, old oil and/or chain adjustment.
        Never heard or the loose chain one.
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          #5
          Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
          Cable adjustment, old oil and/or chain adjustment.
          Never heard or the loose chain one.
          a slack or badly worn chain will cause gear shift problems at standstill.
          also as stated it could be incorrect clutch adjustment, worn clutch,or old or incorrect grade oil
          1978 GS1085.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Agemax View Post
            a slack or badly worn chain will cause gear shift problems at standstill.
            Please pardon my ignorance, but it has been over 30 years since I owned a chain-driven bike.

            Just how does a slack chain make it harder to find neutral?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Steve View Post
              Please pardon my ignorance, but it has been over 30 years since I owned a chain-driven bike.

              Just how does a slack chain make it harder to find neutral?

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              because the layshaft, which the drive sprocket is attatched needs a certain amount of tension on it (ie. correct chain tension) to allow it to remain still when trying to change gear and allow the shift drum to rotate and the gear dogs to actuate and locate as they should.
              a slack chain will allow to much free play in the gearbox and cause gear change problems.
              a chain that is too tight can also show the same symptoms
              1978 GS1085.

              Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                #8
                Originally posted by Steve View Post
                Please pardon my ignorance, but it has been over 30 years since I owned a chain-driven bike.

                Just how does a slack chain make it harder to find neutral?

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                it doesn't
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                  #9
                  adjust the clutch-- cable and inside the engine (when both are applicable)


                  change the sludge laden oil


                  adjust the shift lever

                  remove grease and dirt build up from everything in the C/S sprocket area

                  if that does not help split the cases something is bent.
                  SUZUKI , There is no substitute

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by trippivot View Post
                    it doesn't
                    ok, try putting your bike in top gear, slacken the chain right off, then, at standstill try getting it into neutral with out rocking the bike back and forth
                    1978 GS1085.

                    Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                      #11
                      Damn right!! Just tried it on my fzr1000 and he's right ya know!
                      ... Smart arse! :-)

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                        #12
                        Wow thanks guys lots of great info. Will tighten the chain tomorrow if I need a new one how many inches should the new one be? Would like to change the oil in the bike also, But what would the number on the filter be I think its a canister one if not mistaken. How many qts of oil.? Can I run regular synthetic engine oil or just the motorcycle oil?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by speed_demon_customs View Post
                          Wow thanks guys lots of great info. Will tighten the chain tomorrow if I need a new one how many inches should the new one be? Would like to change the oil in the bike also, But what would the number on the filter be I think its a canister one if not mistaken. How many qts of oil.? Can I run regular synthetic engine oil or just the motorcycle oil?
                          count the number of links, including the joining link and ask for a new chain with the same number of links. you would be better off buying a chain and sprocket kit as you shouldn't fit a new chain on old sprockets.
                          just ask the retailer for the relevant oil and filter for your model, and a chain and sprocket kit!!!!!
                          1978 GS1085.

                          Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Fizzyhair View Post
                            Damn right!! Just tried it on my fzr1000 and he's right ya know!
                            ... Smart arse! :-)
                            I know it happens , just didn't know why , until now .
                            He's still a smart arse . Smarter than mine anyway .

                            Cheers , Simon .
                            Last edited by simon kuether; 06-29-2010, 03:24 PM.
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                            '79 GS1000S my daily ride in Aus

                            '82 (x2) GS650ET in the shed

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by simon kuether View Post
                              I know it happens , just didn't know why , until now .
                              He's still a smart arse . Smarter than mine anyway .

                              Cheers , Simon .
                              lol, your baseball cap is on its way mate
                              1978 GS1085.

                              Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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