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    Gs1100 Cam Chain Broke at 8k.

    Hi GSR
    Well last weekend was not the best of times,My 82 GS1100ED had a rocker adjuster screw come lose on an engine with Wiseco 1166 kit with a fresh 1150 head ,the bike ran about 10 times drove it twice and then then bike just died like I blew a fuse,I went to turn the starter over and it spun way to fast,knew I was in trouble.Got bike home and tore it apart and it was ugly.I did tighten the adjuster screw nuts hand tight with a 1/4in drive,but did not use a torq wrench to 8.4 ft lbs like Suzuki calls forWell GSR ok now for the questions.
    Do the pistons look like they can be salvaged some are perfect?
    Are these stock welds on the crank?
    What should I do while the cases are split anything to keep an eye out for or an easy replace?
    Any help would be great






    Last edited by Guest; 07-25-2010, 11:57 AM.

    #2
    OUCH.... that looks sore, the pistons look alright, I have seen worse, although you are in for a couple of valves there.
    Be sure to check the con rods for straightness, there is the outside chance that there may be a bent rod, but I doubt it, better to just check, all the same.
    not sure what that broken thing between the crank webs is.....
    What else can you do while you are in there, how long is a piece of string....(see, how much do you want to spend)

    Does not look that terminal, should be up and riding in no time, keep us posted.

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      #3
      that chain says DID ; is that stock or swapped out when you did the 1166? Was it a continuous chain or riveted?

      The plugs look like it was burning well.

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        #4
        Originally posted by posplayr View Post
        that chain says DID ; is that stock or swapped out when you did the 1166? Was it a continuous chain or riveted?

        The plugs look like it was burning well.
        Jim thanks for the reply the it was a continuous stock chain from what I can tell I never had the cases apart?,the bolt went down ontop of the crank gear thats what caused the chain to snap im thinkin?The bike was running GREAT before bolt let lose,I got a few good garage revs out of it and 2 good blasts down my street,could of been worse..lol

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          #5
          Damn!
          What a bummer.
          Get it back together with a HD chain and a manual tensioner.
          1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
          1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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            #6
            Don't think those are stock welds...factory is much prettier!!Ouch that sucks yes looks like the bolt caught in the worst place at the bottom where the cam chain slipper fits, it blasted that apart and took chain with it. Take it ALL apart and inspect clean it thoroughly. Valve job at the least. I'd want to be sure the pistons are ok find a place that does NDT testing they should be able to tell you if they are. Easy for them to check for cracks with ultra sound. After all they did get smacked pretty hard.

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              #7
              you have to...\
              i repeat.
              you have to crank down the adjuster nuts so this does not happen.
              they are tough for there size....no torque wrench stuff...just a box end wrench and A LOT of pressure used to tighten.
              i have seen this many times..damn shame.
              good luck on getting it back together.
              let me know if i can be of any assistance.

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                #8
                Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
                you have to...\
                i repeat.
                you have to crank down the adjuster nuts so this does not happen.
                they are tough for there size....no torque wrench stuff...just a box end wrench and A LOT of pressure used to tighten.
                i have seen this many times..damn shame.
                good luck on getting it back together.
                let me know if i can be of any assistance.
                yea I bet I put 20-25 ft-lbs

                I use large plyers to hold the knurled handle and my bare hand about as hard as I can on the lever.

                Z1 Enterprises specializes in quality Motorcycle parts for Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Yamaha Classic Japanese motorcycles from the 1970's and 1980's.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
                  you have to...\
                  i repeat.
                  you have to crank down the adjuster nuts so this does not happen.
                  they are tough for there size....no torque wrench stuff...just a box end wrench and A LOT of pressure used to tighten.
                  i have seen this many times..damn shame.
                  good luck on getting it back together.
                  let me know if i can be of any assistance.
                  Hello and thanks for the reply,Do the pistons look worth another try?Could I clean them up with a dremel tool or?how much damage do you think happed to the head/guides (1150 stock head)?Any help would be great.Thanks

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by posplayr View Post
                    yea I bet I put 20-25 ft-lbs

                    I use large plyers to hold the knurled handle and my bare hand about as hard as I can on the lever.

                    http://www.z1enterprises.com/product...ment-Tool.aspx
                    Nm misprint..Ill have to buy one of these

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by posplayr View Post
                      yea I bet I put 20-25 ft-lbs

                      I use large plyers to hold the knurled handle and my bare hand about as hard as I can on the lever.

                      http://www.z1enterprises.com/product...ment-Tool.aspx
                      I bought one of those as well, quite handy. Except for the one adjuster near the cam cap that it wont fit on the nut, I use a 9mm wrench on those ones.
                      That really sucks, to have that much damage from one little adjuster coming loose, I guess thats why my po loctited my adjusters.
                      I am putting my 1166 together soon, ordered a heavy duty chain and guide from APE, maybe a HD chain would have faired better?

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                        #12
                        Rich, deburr any sharp edges on the pistons & reassemble with a Tsubaki cam chain. That looks like an early crank that someone welded up. DEFINITELY not done by Gardner or Pierson! X2 on the rocker nuts being tight, but not so tight you hurt the threads. Let me know if I can help. Is the cam chain sprocket on the crank ok? Make sure you look at EVERY tooth really well!!! Ray.

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                          #13
                          Those pistons look usable to me.
                          Looks like you are on the lean side.
                          1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                          1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
                            Those pistons look usable to me.
                            Looks like you are on the lean side.
                            LEAN IS MEAN!!!
                            FYI
                            do not lock tite the adjusters!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                            just get the mo-fo's really tight..not limp wristed tight.

                            34-35 degree's of timing max.
                            not 40-50 if you get what i'm saying
                            Last edited by blowerbike; 07-25-2010, 05:57 PM. Reason: had to add to the ad of the ad!

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                              #15
                              Wow, that really sucks!!

                              Just me of course but I think I'd use a torque wrench after you hand tighten the adjuster nuts just to be sure you have the proper feel.

                              Good luck getting it back together.
                              Ed

                              To measure is to know.

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