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Did you even get a slight grinding noise when you let out the clutch? Seems like, if it was the splines, you would have at least heard a raspy, grinding noise when engaging the clutch.1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
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Originally posted by 1948man View PostDid you even get a slight grinding noise when you let out the clutch? Seems like, if it was the splines, you would have at least heard a raspy, grinding noise when engaging the clutch.1981 gs650L
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I was just getting ready to remove the wheel and I thought I'd see what happened if I started 'er up first, see if anything magically changed.
On the center stand and the rear wheel is turning in first, second, etc. Clutch is not affecting the speed at all.
Off the center stand there's still no push. There's a little bit of a growl, a low rumble like an angry cat, seems like it's coming from more aft than fore."I have come to believe that all life is precious." -- Eastman, TWD6.4
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Originally posted by kerrfunk View PostI was just getting ready to remove the wheel and I thought I'd see what happened if I started 'er up first, see if anything magically changed.
What would you do if the bike all of a sudden starting working again?Ed
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hee hee. I dono. Chalk it up to a nightmare?
But the spline doesn't look bad to me. Dirty on the wheelside, but otherwise looks good, doesn't it?:
wheelside
driveside
edit: didn't look far enough. Hahahaha I see now. Those little nubs at the end are supposed to extend all the way They're completely gone aren't they? This is the gold spline, huh.
Now. From what I read in this thread, the part number is 64680-45112 .
I see it at bikebandit for $142.52, but I don't see it at Z1.
Anybody got a lead on one for under a hundred?Last edited by kerrfunk; 09-12-2010, 04:05 PM."I have come to believe that all life is precious." -- Eastman, TWD6.4
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I got one at BoulevardSuzuki for about $100. Call and ask for Ashley Cooper. If you find one on ebay the right color they're fairly expensive. The funny thing is you can often buy an entire wheel with the spline assembly incuded for fairly cheap. I got a 1100G wheel with good splines for $35. I'm gonna get around to putting the 17" wheel on my GL.1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
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2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
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1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
1983 GS 1100 G
2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)
I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.
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Originally posted by 1948man View PostEd
To measure is to know.
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The part is:
JOINT, HUB DRIVEN: 64680-45113
It's still available new for $100 - $125 and will be for quite a while -- this part is used on every Suzuki shaftie until the present day except the mighty M109. The Intruders (VS700-800) are very common, so if you can find an Intruder rear wheel with a spline, that spline will work as well.
The 1985 and newer splines are silver -- GOOD. If you order a new spline from Suzuki, you'll get the good updated part.
The 82-83 splines (and some 81 and 84) were gold -- BAD.
1979-80 splines and some 1981 were black -- ALSO GOOD.
It's VERY difficult to tell the difference in spline color from photos. Even in person, you sometimes have to get them side-by-side to tell. The best indicator is what bike they came from. In the end, it's often more trouble and money than it's worth to fart around with used parts when a brand new spline is easily available for just over $100.1983 GS850G, Cosmos Blue.
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Originally posted by ddaniels View PostYep, you need a spline for sure. That one is gone for good. I feel bad for selling it to you that way (well, it wasn't that way when you got it though), but also feel relieved that I don't have to deal with it. But I may have to on my G.
While the wheel's off I'm getting a new tire. That one has about 6,000 miles on it and not enough tread to pass inspection, I don't think."I have come to believe that all life is precious." -- Eastman, TWD6.4
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Originally posted by tkent02 View PostWhile we are on this subject, do 650s ever have spline issues?
Are the parts in there smaller or the same as the big bikes?
Also, to those who haven't checked their splines -- please do so NOW. Do NOT wait for yours to strip out in the middle of some busy intersection. Also keep in mind that the drive spline teeth on the final drive side take a real beating when the driven splines get thin and go blooey. It's well worth getting ahead of this problem ASAP.1983 GS850G, Cosmos Blue.
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