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    Putting in my new allen wrench type valve adjusters on my 83 1100E and guess where the allen wrench went? You betcha!! Right down the center to the crankshaft. Any way to get it out without a total tear down? I'll try fishing with a magnet tomorrow. Right now I'm temporarily insane and cannot function.

    Wheatdog.

    #2
    Start with using a good flashlight. maybe if you can see it you can keep from pushing it in further. Try putting a small magnet on a bendable wire down the same hole? Maybe remove the oil drain plug and fish around with the magnet? If no good, remove the oil pan and fish some more? Maybe even reach the magnet in from behind the clutch cover?
    Whatever you do don't rotate the crankshaft at all.
    Last edited by tkent02; 09-18-2010, 08:08 PM.
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      #3
      Just what I would suggest. If that doesn't work you can always turn the bike over and shake.
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        #4
        I've done the same and was able to fish it out. Always do two thing when the valve cover is off.

        1.) stick blue paper towels down the chain tunnel to stop things dropping down.

        2.) Always remove blue paper towels before reinstalling valve cover.

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          #5
          I've got a pretty small but potent magnet that I'm JB welding to the end of a spare Ford 289 dipstick. Strong but pliable. You know, I've been working on engines for 40 yrs and still do incredibly ignorant things like this. I'm more ****ed at myself than the situation. Oh well, made a Caesar salad and quaffed a bottle of Reisling. My '65 Mustang road racer gets out of the paint shop tomorrow. I'll see what I can screw up on that next. Chill out and walk away. Tomorrow is another day.

          Wheatdog

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            #6
            Be leary of the jb-welding the magnet...if it comes off you may make things worse. I always use a small magnet retriever...the magnets are usually glued and clamped into place.

            For future reference, as well as posplayer's suggestion, all of my tools in such situations get safety wired.

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              #7
              You think that's dumb? Don't get me started on all the stupid stuff I've managed to do while wrenching.

              A good magnet should find the wrench no problem.
              Ed

              To measure is to know.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                You think that's dumb? Don't get me started on all the stupid stuff I've managed to do while wrenching.
                We once left one of those little stubby phillips head screwdrivers sitting on top of the #1 while changing the headgasket on a V6 Chevy Beretta. Man did THAT make a lot of noise...

                ...just an example...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by wheatdog View Post
                  I've got a pretty small but potent magnet that I'm JB welding to the end of a spare Ford 289 dipstick. Strong but pliable. You know, I've been working on engines for 40 yrs and still do incredibly ignorant things like this. I'm more ****ed at myself than the situation. Oh well, made a Caesar salad and quaffed a bottle of Reisling. My '65 Mustang road racer gets out of the paint shop tomorrow. I'll see what I can screw up on that next. Chill out and walk away. Tomorrow is another day.

                  Wheatdog

                  Riesling with garlic? Indeed! I like a nice dry white tuna covered with cracked pepperecorns with riesling
                  6 burly guys are needed to flip the bike over and shake the wrench out.
                  Hell it will work.

                  Was the feeling the same kind of quesy you get from a bolt that keeps on a turnin or was it more an immediate rage?

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                    #10
                    No luck with the magnet. I wanted to look at the chain guides anyway (top end noise); so this forces the issue. Once the cylinder block is off I should have sufficient access to find the slippery little devil.

                    Wheatdog

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                      #11
                      Did you try opening the clutch and pulling out the basket...

                      You can get to a lot of the under crank area that way...

                      Just a thought...good luck.
                      Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
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                        #12
                        If you want to pull the top end that's fine, but I'm almost certain you can get the wrench out without doing so.

                        Next level of escalation would be to pull out the cams so you can move the cam chain out of the way and fish with the magnet and/or pull the sump cover off so you can look inside from the bottom. Going in though the clutch opening might work too.
                        Ed

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                          #13
                          [QUOTE=JEEPRUSTY;1285958

                          Was the feeling the same kind of quesy you get from a bolt that keeps on a turnin or was it more an immediate rage?[/QUOTE]

                          was it more an immediate rage??

                          Like when that bolt snapps off instead.
                          Been there, got the shirt
                          Doug aka crag antler

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                            #14
                            a flexible magnetic wand(about 24" long) will get it.
                            everybody needs 1 or 2 of these....life savers...

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Highway_Glider
                              You know what would be a bigger &%^#& Up?

                              That it is not there. I have looked for parts before where I think they are (Both inside or around) only to find them on the garage floor 10 feet away.

                              DP
                              Seems the bigger &%^#& up would be to assume it's not there when it really is.
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