Starter Clutch Stuck?

[gs1150streetracer]

Hello
I have the bike In my sig,what would cause the starter clutch to stay engaged once the engine is running?I have fried one starter after the engine fired with the starter engaged,put another starter in the bike and another starter clutch off a bike I know works,took the wire off the starter touched it to the Battery Positive to check if it was the solinoid,bike fired and same thing,starter runs with with the bike.The bike has a small end crank,I know for a fact the starter clutchworks on the other engine.Im lost any help would be great....Rotor nut to tight?End of crank worn?

[blowerbike]

if the small left side crank is shrunk and or the rotor is to big from being spun...
the rotor will pull back to far and make the starter clutch act as direct drive sometimes.

[Steve]

Are you sure the solenoid is not stuck ON?

Use a test light or a volt meter on the starter terminal. It should show power when you hit the starter button, of course, but should fo OFF when the button is released.

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[tom203]

Are you sure the solenoid is not stuck ON?

Use a test light or a volt meter on the starter terminal. It should show power when you hit the starter button, of course, but should fo OFF when the button is released.

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Or just remove solenoid output wire ( to starter), touch this wire briefly to battery positive( IN NEUTRAL), starter spins- does it stick engaged?

[Steve]

Or just remove solenoid output wire ( to starter), touch this wire briefly to battery positive( IN NEUTRAL), starter spins- does it stick engaged?

Actually, that will only test to see if the starter is sticking, not the solenoid.

To do the same test a little easier, simply use an old screwdriver to short across the two large terminals on the solenoid.

To test the solenoid, you can also use a jumper wire from the battery terminal (on the battery or the solenoid) to the smaller wire that is soldered to the solenoid.

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[gs1150streetracer]

Are you sure the solenoid is not stuck ON?

Use a test light or a volt meter on the starter terminal. It should show power when you hit the starter button, of course, but should fo OFF when the button is released.

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Steve thanks for the I tried this to get the solinoid out of the way"took the wire off the starter touched it to the Battery Positive to check if it was the solinoid"the bike was started this way and still the starter turned with the engine,also Im am on my 2nd starter so its not sticking.

[gs1150streetracer]

if the small left side crank is shrunk and or the rotor is to big from being spun...
the rotor will pull back to far and make the starter clutch act as direct drive sometimes.

Thanks for the info,I used 2 starter clutchs both I Know work and still the starter is staying on when engine starts,what can I do to the crank end to make it work?The one starter clutch I am using has about 2000miles on it so I know its not worn.Any help would be great im stumped.

[tom203]

Actually, that will only test to see if the starter is sticking, not the solenoid.

To do the same test a little easier, simply use an old screwdriver to short across the two large terminals on the solenoid.

To test the solenoid, you can also use a jumper wire from the battery terminal (on the battery or the solenoid) to the smaller wire that is soldered to the solenoid.

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The plan was to get the solenoid out of the picture. In my youth, I had a Ford solenoid that when once engaged kept power to the trigger wire somehow- internal short.
In any event, sounds like blowerbike has the answer.

[BadBillyB]

Hello
I have the bike In my sig,what would cause the starter clutch to stay engaged once the engine is running?I have fried one starter after the engine fired with the starter engaged,put another starter in the bike and another starter clutch off a bike I know works,took the wire off the starter touched it to the Battery Positive to check if it was the solinoid,bike fired and same thing,starter runs with with the bike.The bike has a small end crank,I know for a fact the starter clutchworks on the other engine.Im lost any help would be great....Rotor nut to tight?End of crank worn?

Hey there, if it were mine I would take the cover off and inspect all the components. If you remove the idler gear, the large gear should turn easily in one direction and "lock up" in the other direction. The only thing that can "couple" it to the crank is the clutch rollers or the bearings for the large gear. A locked up bearing for the large gear could cause the starter to spin. Pull the cover......Billy

[gs road racer]

Steve thanks for the I tried this to get the solinoid out of the way"took the wire off the starter touched it to the Battery Positive to check if it was the solinoid"the bike was started this way and still the starter turned with the engine,also Im am on my 2nd starter so its not sticking.

If you did this and it still turned then the starter clutch is the culprit a common failure.Be sure all the parts in it move freely and no flats are worn on the drive rollers.....