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    gs850 final drive interchange?

    now i have done a lot of reading, and I haven't seen anything pertaining to this yet. people want more width, and people want wire spokes but most don't have the room... anyways:

    i was messing around on the dunlop tire site tonight looking at rubber for the back of my almost completed 81 GS850 hardtail and i decided to click similar year range bikes with bigger motors. i came across an 87 CV1400 that has a moderately wider rim and an 87 VS1400 that has a significantly wider rim! i did a little research and both bikes are shaft driven, and both bikes are disk brake.

    this is where i need a little bit of help. from what i can see in the pictures the way the final drive mates to the rear rim looks identical as my 850 does. was there some sort of universal final drive unit (aside from gearing because i have read that that fluctuates a little bit amongst models) that suzuki was using? i can't find any pictures detailed enough to count grooves online of either bikes, but i bet someone on here knows something!

    the plan here is to be able to squeeze a little more beef under the back of this bike before i settle with my little 130 on the stock 2.75" cast rim. i have the width in the new hard tail rear section, and there is no protective cover over the shaft anymore as i did away with the swing arm completely, so that should have bought me more than enough space to squeeze a 170 or 180 back there without rubbing on anything... and the VS1400 rim happens to be a 4.00" wire spoke design which should be able to accommodate that nicely. would my GS850 final drive unit mate to a VS1400 rim?! and if not, any qualms with running the entire drive unit and rim from an intruder as a unit that anyone can think of?

    any help would be greatly appreciated!
    -david

    #2
    I don't know about the Suzuki's, but I've seen people use Virago hubs on Seca's and Maxims to get wire wheels. They shared the same spline / cush arrangement. Possibly then, Mr Suzuki might run the same hubs between their shafty models (especially if it's a similar year).

    As far as using the whole rear end assembly, I would suspect the diff ratios would be different between the 4 cyl and V Twin engines - more likely the Intruder being taller geared to account for the lower engine speed.

    All speculation on my part though....except for the Yamaha bit
    Current:
    Z1300A5 Locomotive (swapped my Intruder for it), GS450 Cafe Project (might never finish it....), XT500 Commuter (I know - it's a Yamaha :eek:)

    Past:
    VL1500 Intruder (swapped for Z1300), ZX9R Streetfighter (lets face it - too fast....), 1984 GSX750EF, 1984 GSX1100EF (AKA GS1150)
    And a bunch of other crap Yamahas....

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      #3
      Hi,

      I can tell you that the rear spline gear (driven hub, part# 64680-45113) in the GS850 is also used in these bikes...

      • 1985 SUZUKI GV1200GLF (Madura) - REAR WHEEL
      • 1986 SUZUKI GV1200GLGG (Madura) - REAR WHEEL
      • 1994 SUZUKI VS800GLR (Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 1995 SUZUKI VS800GLPS (Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 1996 SUZUKI VS800GLT (Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 1997 SUZUKI VS800GLPV (Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 1998 SUZUKI VS800GLPW (Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 1999 SUZUKI VS800GLPX (Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2000 SUZUKI VS800GLPY (Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2001 SUZUKI VL800K1 (Volusia) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2001 SUZUKI VS800GLPK1 (Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2002 SUZUKI VL800K2 (Volusia) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2002 SUZUKI VS800GLK2 (Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2003 SUZUKI VL800K3 (Volusia) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2003 SUZUKI VL800ZK3 (Volusia Limited) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2003 SUZUKI VS800GLK3 (Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2004 SUZUKI VL800K4 (Volusia Limited) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2004 SUZUKI VL800K4 (Volusia) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2004 SUZUKI VS800K4 (Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2005 SUZUKI C50 VL800K5 (Boulevard Volusia) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2005 SUZUKI M50 VZ800K5 (Marauder Boulevard) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2005 SUZUKI S50 VS800K5 (Boulevard Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2006 SUZUKI C50K6 VL800K6 (Boulevard Volusia) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2006 SUZUKI C50TK6 VL800TK6 (Boulevard Volusia) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2006 SUZUKI M50K6, VZ800K6 (Boulevard Marauder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2006 SUZUKI S50K6 VS800K6 (Boulevard Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2007 SUZUKI C50K7 & C50TK7 VL800K7 & VL800TK7 (Boulevard Volusia) - REAR WHEEL (VL800K6/TK6/K7/TK7)
      • 2007 SUZUKI M50K7 VZ800K7 (Boulevard Marauder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2007 SUZUKI S50K7 VS800K7 (Boulevard Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2008 SUZUKI C50CK8 VL800CK8 (Boulevard Volusia) - REAR WHEEL (VL800CK6/CK7/CK8)
      • 2008 SUZUKI C50K8 VL800K8 (Boulevard Volusia) - REAR WHEEL (VL800K6/TK6/K7/TK7/K8/TK8)
      • 2008 SUZUKI C50TK8 VL800TK8 (Boulevard Volusia) - REAR WHEEL (VL800K6/TK6/K7/TK7/K8/TK8)
      • 2008 SUZUKI M50K8 VZ800K8 (Boulevard Marauder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2008 SUZUKI S50K8 VS800K8 (Boulevard Intruder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2009 SUZUKI C50CK9 VL800CK9 (Boulevard Volusia) Custom - REAR WHEEL
      • 2009 SUZUKI C50K9 VL800K9 (Boulevard Volusia) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2009 SUZUKI C50TK9 VL800TK9 (Boulevard Volusia) Touring - REAR WHEEL
      • 2009 SUZUKI M50K9 VZ800K9 (Boulevard Marauder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2009 SUZUKI M50ZK9 VZ800ZK9 (Boulevard Marauder) - REAR WHEEL
      • 2009 SUZUKI S50K9 VS800K9 (Boulevard Intruder) - REAR WHEEL

      Now, I don't know if that means any of these rear wheels will fit on the 850, but I would imagine a couple of them would. Since I have no first hand knowledge, I'll shut up now and wish you luck.


      Thank you for your indulgence,

      BassCliff
      Last edited by Guest; 01-31-2011, 04:53 PM.

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        #4
        The swing arm is very different, drive shaft/ differential is different. If you can do the fab work ? it is possible.. Nothing you can just bolt together that I am aware of.. There is not a lot of clearance with the stock size tire to begin with. My guess is that you would need to graft on the swing arm mount from the donor bike to make it work

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          #5
          thanks for the responses!!

          i was really just focused on all wheels that would work with shaft and disk. i'd prefer to use this drive unit to save some money, but using a different unit that mates to a specific wheel wouldn't necessarily be that big of a deal. i have more than enough space in my new hard tail and didn't drill axle holes in my axle plates just in case i have to use a different size axle. i have a gsx-r wheel that is a 180 that i set in place and i really liked the look. i was hoping to be able to use something a little bit wider and you guys are the know all so i figured i'd give it a whirl!!! i see all the posts about spokes and what have you on here and i hope to have an answer on what will work really soon. i am going to a salvage yard soon to test this drive unit on some rims that aren't on that list.

          i have a picture to kind of show what i am working with at the moment. everything is just tacked into place at the moment, should be welded by a pro this weekend.





          -david

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