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    Moving onto valve adjustment 77 gs750

    Will this be the same for my gs750? as far as which direction the lobes face? Hoping so since I have an 8 valve thanks!


    Is there a better picture of where the feeler gauge goes? I sure miss the type with the threaded feet on old 911s

    Where do I get new shims if needed

    Thanks

    #2
    Originally posted by hkspwrsche View Post
    Will this be the same for my gs750? as far as which direction the lobes face? Hoping so since I have an 8 valve thanks!


    Is there a better picture of where the feeler gauge goes? I sure miss the type with the threaded feet on old 911s

    Where do I get new shims if needed

    Thanks
    Yes, that tutorial is applicable for your engine. The feeler gauge goes between the shim and the cam lobe.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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      #3
      And if you need some shims.......

      If you sell parts or provide services for GS series motorcycles, place a description of it in this forum.
      Larry D
      1980 GS450S
      1981 GS450S
      2003 Heritage Softtail

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        #4
        Originally posted by hkspwrsche View Post
        Is there a better picture of where the feeler gauge goes?
        Hi,

        Did you see the pictures on page 18 of the guide? I don't see how that can be much more clear. I order my shims from Z1. At about $5 each, they're the best deal in town (mentioned on page 14 of the guide).


        Thank you for your indulgence,

        BassCliff

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          #5
          Originally posted by BassCliff View Post
          Hi,

          Did you see the pictures on page 18 of the guide? I don't see how that can be much more clear. I order my shims from Z1. At about $5 each, they're the best deal in town (mentioned on page 14 of the guide).


          Thank you for your indulgence,

          BassCliff

          Thanks I should have just looked at the manual or scrolled down, the cutaway made it more clear to me. Nothing between the cam and the shim just checking the clearance directly. I'm sure it would have been clear once apart also. I've had good luck with Z1 on my dyna S, so I will order from them if need any new ones.. Looks like as long as the lobe end isn't anywhere near the shim you can check the clearance.

          Any advice on what to use as the special tool to depress the valve to remove the shim? brake spring compressor or anything that'll fit? Otherwise I'll just order the tool when I order shims and the gasket. I was thinking I would do my checks to inventory my shims and them order shims and a valve cover gasket.

          Thanks again
          Last edited by Guest; 02-13-2011, 01:24 PM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by hkspwrsche View Post
            Looks like as long as the lobe end isn't anywhere near the shim you can check the clearance.

            Any advice on what to use as the special tool to depress the valve to remove the shim? brake spring compressor or anything that'll fit?
            NO, you can't simply put the lobe anywhere you want. The procedure is rather specific: on the exhaust, point #1 toward the front of the head, #2 will point straight up. Measure BOTH, #1 and #2 without moving anything. Rotate the crank 180 degrees, now EX #4 will be pointing forward and EX #3 will be up. Measure BOTH, #3 and #4 without moving anything. Rotate the crank another 180 degrees, intake #1 will be pointing up, #2 will be pointing backward. Measure BOTH #1 and #2 without moving anything. Finally, roatate the crank a final 180 degrees, measure #3 and #4.

            The reason for the specific positioning is that in those positions, neither valve on that side of the cam will be pushing on a valve, which will offset it in the cam journal a bit, which will affect the reading for the adjacent valve.


            I don't think I would try using a brake spring compressor in there, I have no idea where you would put it. About the only thing that will work to push the bucket down is the recommended tool, which is readily available for $15 or less. However, if you look on BassCliff's site, just below the tutorial that you linked to in your first post, you will see the "zip-tie supplement". That is the method that I use, as I find it easier and quicker than the "official" tool.

            By the way, you will need one tool or the other BEFORE you find out what shims you need to order. For help in determining what shims you need, read the end of my sig.
            sigpic
            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
            Family Portrait
            Siblings and Spouses
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            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
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              #7
              cool trick steve

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                #8
                Originally posted by hkspwrsche View Post
                cool trick steve
                What trick?

                .
                sigpic
                mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                Family Portrait
                Siblings and Spouses
                Mom's first ride
                Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                  #9
                  zip tie trick!

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                    #10
                    It's not my trick, I just use it.

                    If you read it on Basscliff's site, you will see that the author is "Matchless".

                    .
                    sigpic
                    mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                    Family Portrait
                    Siblings and Spouses
                    Mom's first ride
                    Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                    (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                      #11
                      Cool trick Matchless. Steve thanks for bringing that to my attention!

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                        #12
                        if a lot of my valves are .0015 should I adjust them? and I noticed that some peaple say they can settle in after a ride, I swapped the worst offenders and ended up with a .0035 on one, should I try it? I just want to do it right the first time since i dont have any extra shims and have to order them

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                          #13
                          .0015" is still within spec, but will likely need to be changed next time.

                          Should you change it? No real need to change it, but it won't hurt, either.

                          If all the other valves are on the looser end of the spec range, I would change the shim on this one, too. Most engines are happier with valves are a bit looser. They still breathe quite well, the torque band moves down a few rpm into the range more of us use most of the time, the valves spend more time on their seats cooling off, everybody is much happier.

                          Order the shims you need from Z1, you will have them in less than a week.

                          .
                          sigpic
                          mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                          hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                          #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                          #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                          Family Portrait
                          Siblings and Spouses
                          Mom's first ride
                          Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                          (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                            #14
                            Order them indeed from Z1, you will have them in less than a week EVEN if you live in Europe...

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                              #15
                              OK Folks... Here are the results of my valve clearance check and my current shim position as they are currently during this check.
                              I'm not sure how far less to go on my 0 clearance valves(smallest guage wouldnt fit).
                              It appears I can rearrange some of them for better positioning and then order the ones I'll need in addition.

                              #1 exhaust shim 2.65 Clearance 0
                              #1 intake Shim 2.75 Clearance .002"/.051 mm

                              #2 exhaust Shim 2.75 clearance 0
                              #2intake shim 2.75 clearance .0015'/.038

                              #3 exhaust shim 2.70 clearance .0015"/.038mm
                              #3 intake shim 2.85 clearance 0

                              #4 exhaust shim 2.65x clearance .002"/.051
                              #4 intake shim 2.75 clearance .002/.051mm
                              Last edited by Guest; 02-18-2011, 05:01 PM.

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