oil priming

[Guest]

whats the best procedure to prime your oil pressure before start up of a top end rebuild.

should l just crank the motor by hand or slowly with the kick starter with the spark plugs out and with the head cover off.

what about removing the clutch basket to get to the oil pump and turn the oil pump gears by hand until you get sufficient oil to the overhead gear.

should l put a special grease on the camshaft lobes and journals as the suzuki manual suggests.

[niclpnut]

If the cams are new then definately use some moly on the journals. If they are the old ones, you can probably get by with a healthy coating of motor oil. Moly lube is fine either way, you'll just want to change the oil soon to get the extra grease outa there, after everything is fire up and has been running a bit.


When everything is assembled and valve cover still off, use about half a quart of oil and liberally coat everything (cam loabs, rockers, springs, etc...) and get some oil into the pockets around the head. Then button everything up. Fill the oil, in the cases accounting for the 1/2 quart you use up top.

You can manually turn the crank to get some oil flowing around before you fire it up.

Nic

[Agemax]

If the cams are new then definately use some moly on the journals. If they are the old ones, you can probably get by with a healthy coating of motor oil. Moly lube is fine either way, you'll just want to change the oil soon to get the extra grease outa there, after everything is fire up and has been running a bit.


When everything is assembled and valve cover still off, use about half a quart of oil and liberally coat everything (cam loabs, rockers, springs, etc...) and get some oil into the pockets around the head. Then button everything up. Fill the oil, in the cases accounting for the 1/2 quart you use up top.

You can manually turn the crank to get some oil flowing around before you fire it up.

Nic

i dont think manually turning the crank will spin the pump enough to pump any oil. best way is to do what you also said. liberally pour some oil around the top end, then just fire it up and leave it on idle until the pressure light goes out.
no different from firing your bike up after its been stood for maybe a week or so

[niclpnut]

Yeah not much, but would get some oil on the crank at least

[Agemax]

Yeah not much, but would get some oil on the crank at least

its a roller bearing crank, it will sit in the oil slightly, but a few turns of the engine will have the bearings dripping in oil

[niclpnut]

its a roller bearing crank, it will sit in the oil slightly, but a few turns of the engine will have the bearings dripping in oil

What I meant

[Agemax]

What I meant

a few turns of the engine is a lot of turns on the oil pump!

[david fava]

camshaft lubrication

do l put the lube for a new camshaft on lobes only or the bearing journals only or both.l know in a car with a new camshaft you put the special grease on the lobes for the first start up

[Flyboy]

What these guys said, but I would not go through the trouble of turning oil pumps or hand cranking, not going to gain you anything, the easiest way is just to crank the bike over on the starter with the plugs removed until the oil light goes out, put the plugs back and fire her up.
Never used the moly lube always just clean engine oil, so I speak under correction, and have no doubt I will be flamed for giving you duff gen in short order if I am wrong, but I would coat the lobes, and just use good clean engine oil on the journals, I would be afraid of the moly clogging the little oil feed holes to the journals, if you coat them good in oil before tightening down the caps, they are good, that oil ain't going anywere, anyway when you spin it on the starter, the journals are lubed by the time the oil light goes out.

[niclpnut]

Web-cam recomemends a light coating of moly on the lobes and followers for new web-cam installation.

The 1150 cams for my 1100, got an even coating of moly lube on the cam journals and engine oil on the journal bearings (as per the manual) and made sure the cam lobes and followers were coated with engine oil. Changed oil after it was running for a bit. These cams were used. New cams require an initial break in period and moly is used to increase lubrication.

http://webcamshafts.com/mobile/motorcycle/suzuki/install_data/tc_001561_002860.html

Nic