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Don't take me wrong guys, I've used both wax and PJ1 Blue Label, which I think is a superior lubricant, but more messy. If you want to maximize life of the parts, use the real chain lube. For less mess, wax.Ed
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Originally posted by Rudeman View PostThe rollers on O-ring chains don't need the lube but the chain to spocket contact areas do.
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I don't know if it's the same with motorcycles but on my mountain bikes the transmission is noticeably noiser with wax. I've not used wax on a motorcycle, always used the PJ1 blue.
I've read some reports lately about very long life of O ring chains being achieved with just regular application of WD40 - one report was a guy doing back to back with chain lube V WD40 & the WD40 won.
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koolaid_kid
What ever you do DO NOT USE WD-40. WD-40 is a penetrant. It is about the only thing that can wash the sealed lube from inside your o-rings on your o-ring chain. Once gone, it cannot be replaced. When you clean the chain prior to lubing it, use kerosene. See my sig for a discussion on the subject.
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Originally posted by salty_monk View Post
I've read some reports lately about very long life of O ring chains being achieved with just regular application of WD40 - one report was a guy doing back to back with chain lube V WD40 & the WD40 won.
I think doing it regularly is probably the most important thing...
He got something like 30,000 miles on a chain, this was dirt and street riding both. It works for me. Clean and easy, and it works. Oh yeah, it's cheap too.
Maybe some super duper expensive gooey stuff gets an extra thousand or so miles out of a chain, or maybe it's all hype. I don't really give a hoot.
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I used maxima chain wax, its work good for me.This thing dosent fly which is good because i ride without a chain guard.
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FiremanBob
I was once told by a guy (who is an electrician on submarines) that WD40 is basically kerosene in a spray can.
Does anyone know exactly what is in it?
Edit: I just checked the MDS sheet on the wd40 website. It isn't just kerosene and does contain a surfactant (<2% by volume). That would indicate that if it does seep past the o-rings it would remove the lube and shorten chain life.Last edited by Guest; 06-23-2011, 04:56 PM.
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Originally posted by Steve View PostThe only lube I have used on any of my chains for over 30 years has been 10w-40 engine oil.
But, then, my only chans have been cam chains, inside the engine.
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koolaid_kid
Originally posted by FiremanBob View PostI was once told by a guy (who is an electrician on submarines) that WD40 is basically kerosene in a spray can.
Does anyone know exactly what is in it?
Edit: I just checked the MDS sheet on the wd40 website. It isn't just kerosene and does contain a surfactant (<2% by volume). That would indicate that if it does seep past the o-rings it would remove the lube and shorten chain life.
Use a product that is designed from the ground up to lubricate and protect. A can of chain wax is $10, less if you use the generic Teflon mentioned at the beginning of this thread.( I have no personal knowledge of this product.) A chain is normally over $100, and the sprockets add to the cost (they should be replaced at the same time). Spend the time and money up front for the right product. I have adjusted my chain 3 times in the last 15K miles, and it looks like it has another 30k or more left in it.
O.K., I am off my soap box now.
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The service manual recommends heavy weight motor oil at intervals of 600 miles for my bikes. So I use 90 weight between the chain rollers and sprocket teeth, and on the outside PJ1, enough to keep it from rusting.sigpic
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Clone
Maxima chain wax +1
Why is it the shaft bike guys always chime in on the chain threads?
They must be jealous or something else
It isn't like the chain guys chime in on shaft questions....
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I use kerosene in a spray bottle and a soft rag to wipe it off and then I apply some 90W gear oil. The oil is not so much to lube it but to carry dirt as it flings off. If you have an o-ring chain you don't need to lube it, just clean it once in a while. I usually do this around the time I change the oil.
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nufnuf
CRC tac2 10 bucks a can (everythings a ripp off here in australia)
Makes a mess but does the trick
I use it as often as i can and give the rear wheel a wipe occasionally and a good clean when I get a new tyre (tire)
I never clean my chain.
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koolaid_kid
Not cleaning or lubing the chain is actually good for the bike. It insures that the bike gets a new chain and sprockets much sooner.
OTOH, I picked up some of that DuPont Teflon at Lowes. $5.08 for an 11 oz. aerosol can. Since it is multi-purpose I am going to use it on my garage door rollers first.
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