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**gearhead13** · 06-30-2011, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Kevin GS1100 View Post

This is my first thread but I have been on the site many times over the past year getting great information about fixing up this bike and solving problems that I have had with it. What a great a site! The problem I have now I'm a little nervous about and need some guidance. I have what I think is "clutch rattle". The sound is comming from my left foot. It is worse when at low idle or when I start letting the clutch release. It dosn't seem to correlate with RPM. It seems to go away when in gear. I have ordered the clutch cover gasket but I do not know what I might be looking for once I take the cover off and want to be prepared. I'm not afraid to turn wrenches but I have no experience with bike repair, other then the valve repair that the site led me through and even less with clutches. The weather is nice here in Maine and the season is short so I'm wondering if this is something that I should or could do when the snow flys and ride it for now. The clucth has recently started to slip when I get on it hard. Any ideas or info would be appreciated.

Your clutch is on the right side, you say the noise is on the left. Clutch baskets often loosen up and rattle, but the clutch is on the right. Clutch rattle usually goes away when you pull in the clutch.
As for the slipping, if you dont want to replace the plates, you can put in new stock springs, heavier EBC springs, or the hard Barnett spings.

**Kevin GS1100** · 06-30-2011, 03:45 PM

The rattle is comming from the left side when sitting on the bike. I read something about a starter clutch. Could that be making a rattle from with the symptoms described? Is that on the left side?

**Agemax** · 06-30-2011, 04:15 PM

check that the front sprocket nut has not worked loose, thats right by your left foot

**Kevin GS1100** · 06-30-2011, 05:00 PM

Ok, so I take that left cover off. I'll need a new gasket, right. The bolt that I'm looking for is center to the large part of the cover? Would that have anything to do with the clutch slipping or is that a whole different problem that I need to address. I noticed the rattle and the slipping at the time but that could be just coincidence. Thanks for your help.

**Agemax** · 06-30-2011, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Kevin GS1100 View Post

Ok, so I take that left cover off. I'll need a new gasket, right. The bolt that I'm looking for is center to the large part of the cover? Would that have anything to do with the clutch slipping or is that a whole different problem that I need to address. I noticed the rattle and the slipping at the time but that could be just coincidence. Thanks for your help.

you shouldnt need a new gasket as there is no chance of a leak. is the sprocket loose on the splines?
clutch may be a different problem but sort the rattle out first before it does any damage

**Kevin GS1100** · 06-30-2011, 08:43 PM

Sorry about being stupid but I want to make sure that I get this right. Do I take the cover off by left foot? Do I have to drain the oil first? There seems to be a gasket for that cover. Will I find the sprocket and splines underneath that cover? Again, I'm sorry that you have to explain every detail but I just want to be sure that I do this right. Thanks again

**niclpnut** · 06-30-2011, 10:26 PM

There are 2 covers on the left side. The cover closest to the front of the bike #16 is the stator cover, which covers (the stator) and the starter clutch. It sticks out some.

The sprocket cover doesn't take a gasket and simply covers the small sprocket that the chain rides around.

Sprocket cover is #24 on the fisch.

Nic

**niclpnut** · 06-30-2011, 10:27 PM

You'll have to remove the clutch foot lever first then you can unbolt and remove the cover. Check to see if the nut holding the sprocket is tight and that the sprocket doesn't have any play.

however, If your clutch is slipping and there is a rattle associated with the workings of the clutch hand lever, there is a good chance that you should actually look at the Right side of the bike. It might be more noticable from the left side especially if the clutch hub is loose and rattling.

Does the sound go away at idle after it has warmed up some and in neutral?

Nic

**Kevin GS1100** · 07-01-2011, 08:33 AM

This is a shafty so if recall corectly there isn't a sprocket under the sprocket cover. The sound seems to get worse when it gets warmed up and still rattles in neutral. Is the nut that you are talking about on the starter clutch or stator or do I need to do some more digging after removing the cover to the secoundary drive?

**niclpnut** · 07-01-2011, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by Kevin GS1100 View Post

This is a shafty so if recall corectly there isn't a sprocket under the sprocket cover. The sound seems to get worse when it gets warmed up and still rattles in neutral. Is the nut that you are talking about on the starter clutch or stator or do I need to do some more digging after removing the cover to the secoundary drive?

I was guessing as to what bike you are working on. Might want to put it in your Signature.

I was talking about the nut that holds the sprocket for a chain driven bike, so disregard that piece of advice.

Hopefully someone more knowledgable with shafties can provide more info regarding the drive unit.

Nic

**oohsam** · 07-01-2011, 11:15 AM

When you remove the stator cover, you will see there is a shaft that locks in with a small washer.
The shaft locks in a cog, that presses up against the starter motor....
You may want to check if any of that is lose.
when you remove the magneto cover (stator cover) the cog should just fall lose...

Just a thought.

**Kevin GS1100** · 07-01-2011, 11:31 AM

Thanks for the advice. I ordered the gasket and if I get it this weekend I'll pop that cover off and check it out. Have a great 4th and I'll update later.

**Kevin GS1100** · 07-13-2011, 08:34 PM

Ok, I took the cover off and the large nut that is center to the crank is tight. what seems weird is the double gear that is between the starter gear and the large gear that is on the crank. It is free to move and comes right out when you remove the pin that holds it in place. I think the cover holds it in place but there seems to be a lot of movement. There is one washer on the outside of the double sprocket but nothing on in
the inside. Is this normal? There is a little wear on the gear that is attached the the starter that seems to be to wider then the the gear that it rides on idicating that the double gear is wondering. It looks like the double gear is wandering on that starter gear but there is no wear on that double gear. The starter is tight and not moving. I started to start it this morning but noticed the rattle right away and decided to investigate before I ride anymore. What do you think my next move should be?

**Kevin GS1100** · 07-14-2011, 10:12 AM

I wanted to add that the shaft that comes from the starter is worn. I do not think it is worn enough to cause the gear to jump but it does allow movement of the reduction gear and could be the cause of the sound. Can I replace that shaft comming from the starter or do I need to replace the whole starter? How do remove the starter? Is it just the two screws in the back and then slide it out backwards?

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