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    #46
    At this point, I don't really know what else to do. I will try to start it with the 19 pin setup since everything was lined up closer than the 20 pin setup.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Flaming Chainsaws View Post
      I did not clean and rebuild the carbs but all 4 sparkplugs are wet with fuel.

      Float bowls are full of fuel and floats are set correctly.

      Good spark on all 4 sparkplugs. Got shocked a few times lol.

      20 pins apart but the notches are still slightly off.

      I just adjusted the valves today and they are now .005" clearance on all valves.

      I don't have a compression tester but I did what chef said and my thumb got sucked down the sparkplugs hard! And then it blew back out.
      Do not set the cam timing at 19 pins

      So the last thing would be a very bad air leak?
      Do not set the cam timing at 19 pins
      That is wrong
      1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
      1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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        #48
        How OLD is the fuel? You may want to try one of those spray-fluid-starters (not sure what you call them)
        GS850GT

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          #49
          Guys....

          It was as TeamDar said, check the sparkplug wires and make sure they are in the correct spots. It turns out that the black/yellow and orange/white were in the wrong spots. And because of my stubbornness that I did it "correctly" the first time, it gave me this huge headache .

          Video tonight .

          Thank you for all of your help! It idles pretty well but the throttle is kinda sticky and laggy. Carb clean and new throttle cable coming up.

          Oh yes, it's still with the 20 pin setup .

          Feel free to hit me or give me a high-five. Your choice. Can't believe it was such a simple problem.....

          EDIT: I get it now! I know why flames were shooting out! The coils were firing the wrong cylinders! So the exhaust valve was open when it fired... I will admit that the flame looked cool. At least I was smart enough to do it outside and not in the garage unlike that Harley Davidson owner LOL!
          Last edited by Guest; 07-22-2011, 12:20 AM.

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            #50
            congrats!!
            I've learnt some cool things following your thread. cheers

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              #51
              Originally posted by ptexotik View Post
              congrats!!
              I've learnt some cool things following your thread. cheers
              Thanks!

              I've learned quite a lot from this whole thing as well. Cam timing, valve adjustments, double-triple checking .

              A question about valve adjustments. Why is it that the PO's never do them? I literally only took me 30-45 mins, no joke. And that was my first time!

              Thank you Mr. Suzuki for making the 16 valves so easy!

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                #52
                Honestly FC, it's always the stuff we think we checked because we did but maybe we didn't look close enough or maybe it looked right to us at the time versus what i should have been. I'm glad you got it running. Now just finish cleaning things up and get out for a ride.
                Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                1981 GS550T - My First
                1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by cowboyup3371 View Post
                  Honestly FC, it's always the stuff we think we checked because we did but maybe we didn't look close enough or maybe it looked right to us at the time versus what i should have been. I'm glad you got it running. Now just finish cleaning things up and get out for a ride.
                  Exactly! The same thing can be said about missing parts or tools. It's there but you're not looking close enough. I hate it when that happens .

                  Anyways, I'm glad that I got it running after 2 months of hard work .

                  Now I need to chase this electrical problem.... I'll save that for another thread.

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                    #54
                    Here's the video!
                    Wanna know what the problem was? The coil wires were in the wrong spots. That's a good lesson for double triple checking things.Thank you to The GS Resources...


                    The rattling noise is because I am missing one exhaust bolt.

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                      #55
                      Congrats FC !!

                      At least I was kinda right in saying you must be having a BIG prob if the bike doesn't want to start, lol
                      GS850GT

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by psyguy View Post
                        Congrats FC !!

                        At least I was kinda right in saying you must be having a BIG prob if the bike doesn't want to start, lol
                        Thanks! I was scared when chef said it may be a bent valve. That sounded expensive!

                        I am very glad that it was a simple problem. Runs quite well too... The sound of this bike is so nice!

                        Oh, funny story. I was not expecting the bike to run when I switched the wires. So my valve cover was off. The idle was kinda high too so oil went flying and some oil dripped on the engine . I quickly stopped the engine and filled it back up. Not a lot of oil loss so no worries. It was still between the full and low mark. But I don't have a valve cover gasket either. Gotta get one! But I should have known better. I shake my head at myself...

                        Thanks to everyone that has assisted me and for answering all of my questions!

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                          #57
                          In that video it does NOT sound like it is running on all 4 cylinders. At least from what I am hearing. Ray.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by rapidray View Post
                            In that video it does NOT sound like it is running on all 4 cylinders. At least from what I am hearing. Ray.
                            I don't have the best camera but I'm sure it's running on all 4 cylinders. All 4 pipes were hot!

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                              #59
                              The PO of my 750 just changed over the plug wires.When I put them where they should be I had the same problem.If on your OP here you had said this was happening I may have clued in and said check those wires.Big plus now is you fixed what was a problem.

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                                #60
                                I would like to add something I saw in a photo in this thread.

                                when checking valve lash on a 16 valve head you need to use 2 feeler gauges and do both valves on a rocker at the same time. the tolerance space of the rocker to inner shaft will twist giving you a wrong clearance reading if you only do 1 at a time.
                                SUZUKI , There is no substitute

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