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    Head gasket replacement time?

    Ive had a slight leak between my valve cover gasket and the half moon plug on the front left side. I bought a new gasket and plug. I was hoping to get to the project this afternoon.

    Is this as easy as pulling bolts, removing old gasket, cleaning up and replacing it with new? I have some gasket seal for the bottom of the plug like many of you have suggested.

    What kind of time frame am I looking at? I might not tear into it if its going to take too long. I'd probably just roll it to the weekend.

    Thanks, Rob

    Edited from head gasket to valve cover gasket!
    Last edited by Guest; 08-04-2011, 11:33 AM.

    #2
    What bike?

    Do you mean head gasket or valve cover gasket? Usually the half-moons interface with the valve cover gasket. That would be pretty easy to sort out.

    If your head gasket is leaking, then you must pull the valve cover, camshafts, tensioner, exhaust, tach, remove the head, scrape and clean the gasket and the chain o-ring. Then reinstall the head, set the cam timing, reinstall the tensioner, check and set valve clearances, reinstall exhaust, etc.

    Guess which one takes longer?

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      #3
      I meant valve cover gasket. Sorry. Its a 1980 gs850.

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        #4
        Then you in for a pretty easy task. Of course, while you are in there, you should go ahead and check those valves.

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          #5
          Originally posted by MisterCinders View Post
          Then you in for a pretty easy task. Of course, while you are in there, you should go ahead and check those valves.
          What's a ... "valve"?




          j/k

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            #6
            Umm, the valves in the cylinders. That cover protects the valve train. The valves use shims or adjuster screws (we'd know in your case if we knew what kind of bike you had, hint, hint) to maintain a gap of a certain size. Over time that gap tightens and if not attended to on the maint schedule can cause the valves to never close fully. This can lead to poor starting, running and eventually valve damage.

            You did get a mega-welcome, right? Off BassCliff's site ( http://members.dslextreme.com/users/bikecliff/ ) are guides for 8-valve motors (shims):



            and 16-valve motors (screws):

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              #7
              Looking through your post history, it seems you have an 80 GS850L. That would be an 8-valve (shim type) motor. You can add that info to your signature to spare us (or at least me) the exercise in the future. You can also go to the User CP link and add your location (I know Iowa from the previous post - though the city I'm not sure). GSR members are all around the country and some love the chance to meet fellow owners and have an excuse for a nice ride to help out for little more than pizza and beer (just one if they're riding!)

              Because it's a shim-type motor, the time it takes to finish the job will be highly variable based on the likelihood that you'll need new shims, and how long it will take you to get them. It's helpful to have metric feeler gauges from 0.03mm - 0.10mm, and digital calipers or a micrometer to measure the thickness of current shims. There's also a shim tool which is necessary unless you go the "zip tie" route. See BC's site for the zip tie supplement to 8V valve adjustment. NEVER turn the motor without a shim in every bucket!

              BTW, in almost all vehicular parlance that is a "valve cover", though Suzuki does officially refer to that part as the "head cover".

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                #8
                Mike of bbg, It also seems that I have an 80 gs850L because I posted that above your posts. Maybe all of the "exercise" did you good though?

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                  #9
                  Busted! Wasn't in your OP but yes it's in another post.

                  If it was in your sig though you still wouldn't have to remember it


                  Originally posted by Konnick View Post
                  Mike of bbg, It also seems that I have an 80 gs850L because I posted that above your posts. Maybe all of the "exercise" did you good though?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Konnick View Post
                    What's a ... "valve"?


                    j/k

                    Hey j/k,

                    Did you know that if you don't adjust the valves they will burn, seriously damaging the engine?

                    Have you ever looked at the maintenance schedule for your bike?
                    Ed

                    To measure is to know.

                    Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                    Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                    Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                    KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                      Hey j/k,

                      Did you know that if you don't adjust the valves they will burn, seriously damaging the engine?

                      Have you ever looked at the maintenance schedule for your bike?

                      Nope. Since it's a neglected-for-years $200 dollar bike that I bought barely idling and covered in grease, grime, oil and everything else and I'm trying to bring it back to life one saturday morning at a time ... I haven't really had time to check the maintenance schedule yet.

                      You do know that j/k means "just kidding", right?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mike_of_bbg View Post
                        Busted! Wasn't in your OP but yes it's in another post.

                        If it was in your sig though you still wouldn't have to remember it

                        True dat!

                        I meant to do it before but didn't take the time. Taken care of!

                        I'm in Des Moines, too. Added that also.

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                          #13
                          Get some CLEAN rags and shove them in the appropriate places to catch all the bits of old gasket that fall when you're scraping (not gouging) it off the head. It's best to keep those bits away from the internals.
                          -1980 GS1100 LT
                          -1975 Honda cb750K
                          -1972 Honda cl175
                          - Currently presiding over a 1970 T500

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Konnick View Post

                            You do know that j/k means "just kidding", right?
                            Apparently I'm behind the times on my texting lingo (and without apology).
                            Ed

                            To measure is to know.

                            Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                            Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                            Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                            KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Konnick View Post
                              You do know that j/k means "just kidding", right?
                              Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                              Apparently I'm behind the times on my texting lingo (and without apology).
                              OK, I knew that one, but the sentiment is the same.

                              Most of our keyboards have a full set of keys, and I'll bet that most of them work,
                              so why shortchange those of us that are "chronologically enhanced" by not using them all?

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