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    #16
    Yes they can feel like they are sucking you dry but remember they are 30+ year old bikes. They will need more maintenance work than your average new bike.
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      #17
      Originally posted by cowboyup3371 View Post
      Yes they can feel like they are sucking you dry but remember they are 30+ year old bikes. They will need more maintenance work than your average new bike.
      Meh, have to disagree. The other project we did was a Honda Goldwing same year, with 30k km more. Engine was still pristine, didn't need to, but we still changed the cam belts (they had belts, not chains). A lot bigger bike and in it went a lot less money even though we did plenty mostly cosmetic work since it was technically a-ok and was in a lot worse shape at the start.

      Honda CB500Four... looked a wreck, I was thinking "Why the hell did he have to get this thing?". Stood for at least 10 to 15 years in some corner and showed it. Put in new battery and new plugs, within 5 or 10 seconds it was purring like a cat.

      So, no, it's not the bikes' age, it's the incompetence of their creators, the short-sightedness of Suzuki's engineers AND bean counters, and cheap materials they used.

      Sorry for the aggressive tone, but I'm just angry at getting myself into this crap. All that money could've been a lot better spent and it looks like a lot more is gonna be thrown away.

      x

      Sigh, am getting calmer, so would these work?


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      Last edited by Guest; 09-28-2011, 05:55 PM.

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        #18
        Originally posted by noobie View Post
        These bikes are pretty much a money black-hole, aren't they?

        Not meaning to offend, but are you sure they can be bought? Cause I looked through the microfiches and there's no mention of them. And the only springs on ebay are the plate springs. Are these even removable?

        I think from now on I'm gonna call GS bikes FORD. Or FIAT. They certainly share those stereotypical characteristics... Wish we'd stayed with Honda.
        Honda clutches were waaay worse. My 1100F sounded like somebody was firing a machine gun when I first got it.

        Here's a good write up of the fix (halfway down for the GS1000).



        Or I you can just put a screwdriver in the springs and twist them a bit longer.
        79 GS1000S
        79 GS1000S (another one)
        80 GSX750
        80 GS550
        80 CB650 cafe racer
        75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
        75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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          #19
          Updated above post.

          Originally posted by hampshirehog View Post
          Honda clutches were waaay worse.
          Maybe, but never had a problem with either of the 3 Hondas we ever had.

          Originally posted by hampshirehog View Post
          Here's a good write up of the fix (halfway down for the GS1000).



          Or I you can just put a screwdriver in the springs and twist them a bit longer.
          Putting washers in them? Would work. Well, according to that guy, it does work.

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            #20
            Washers works. Plus so does tweaking them with a screwdriver if they aren't too bad.

            The GS engine is one of the all time great engines. (Simple) maintenance is the key and they'll last forever. The 550 must rank as one of the toughest motorbike engines ever built and the rest are all close behind.
            79 GS1000S
            79 GS1000S (another one)
            80 GSX750
            80 GS550
            80 CB650 cafe racer
            75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
            75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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              #21
              Originally posted by hampshirehog View Post
              Washers works. Plus so does tweaking them with a screwdriver if they aren't too bad.

              The GS engine is one of the all time great engines. (Simple) maintenance is the key and they'll last forever. The 550 must rank as one of the toughest motorbike engines ever built and the rest are all close behind.
              Yet in every basket of prime apples there's a rotten one.

              This time I'm the guy ending up with it. Hopefully this fix will work, the only thing left the is to fix the smoking, get a new pet cock and synch the carbs. Easy. If we get through this with spending max 100 EUR we can pat ourselves on the back.

              I know I'm pretty cynical, but this has been dragging on and has sucked dry a lot of money, so I'm not feeling pretty optimistic about this all being what it looks like is wrong (springs and the piston rings).

              PS: just read what MAG and Brit bikers managed to achieve in the UK and EU in general (those idiotic law proposals). Great job to all 40k guys and gals involved.
              Last edited by Guest; 09-28-2011, 06:29 PM.

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                #22
                You must remember too that it is an air cooled engine, they make more noise. It's like comparing a air cooled VW Bug to the new model VW. And a Honda Goldwing is a water cooled engine with much closer tolerances. Check the clutch basket as suggested, that is likely your problem. !!! Another remote possibility is someone forgot one of the big shim washers for the starter idler gear, letting it rattle..
                Last edited by Guest; 09-28-2011, 07:13 PM.

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