SS allen bolt replacements for camshaft cover ....

[Guest]

Hi,
First post and all
I tried the search but couldn't find the info i required ....
I'm going to replace the camshaft cover original bolts with stainless allen head cap bolts on my gs1000.
My question,is it better to use just a plain washers or a combination of spring and plain ?
Also,should i use some copperease or similar on the threads,as oppposed to dry,and how does this maybe effect the torques i should be applying ?
I have heard also of a drop of silicone under the washern helps to stop moisture getting into the threads also ?
Any help on the best practice for this would be appreciated ....
Cheers.

[BassCliff]

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Hi Mr. SAVAGE,

I would suggest getting a kit from Z1Enterprises.com and replacing all the phillips head bolts on the engine.



You'll get bolts for the stator cover, clutch cover, ignition cover, valve cover, etc, for a very reasonable price.

I use a little white Permatex thread sealer (NOT the red thread locker) on my valve cover bolts, with no washers. Because I use a silicone rubber Real Gasket the torque is much less than stock. The thread sealer guards against the bolts backing out.


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[SAVAGE]

Cheers for the info and the welcome BassCliff .... i suppose the thing that concerns me the most then is the correct torque i should be using.
Can i get away with doing them by hand to be sure to not overtighten or is best to use a proper torque value ?

I have a couple of pics i could upload ... except both my GS's are chopped and i don't want to offend any purists.

[Nessism]

Can i get away with doing them by hand to be sure to not overtighten or is best to use a proper torque value ?

I have a couple of pics i could upload ... except both my GS's are chopped and i don't want to offend any purists.

The factory screws don't use a lock washer so you don't have to add them for your replacements either.

Suzuki lists the recommended torque setting in the factory service manual. Basscliff has free download if you don't already have a proper manual.

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[SVSooke]

If you are careful you can do them by hand.As for pics if you can take the heat post them.If you chopped nice bikes then expect some flak.Not a chopping fan but if you did a decent job ...............

[BassCliff]

Hi,

Can i get away with doing them by hand to be sure to not overtighten or is best to use a proper torque value ?

Sure, you can get away with doing it "by hand". There's no need for "gorilla tight" on the valve cover bolts. Check your manual to be sure, but I think the factory spec is 6-7 foot pounds using a stock paper valve cover gasket. It's just a skosh past snug.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

[SAVAGE]

Thanks for the responses all .... think i will reserve pics for the min,as opinions obviously vary on what makes a good bike eh,personally i love loud pipes

[chuck hahn]

Cliff and Ed..I have been looking for the chromed socket styled bolt kits that have the frlanges already built into them Just like the OEM cam cover bolts but chromed. I want to put that style bolts on all my bikes. I havent seen anyone carrying bolt kits with this style head..anyhthing in your vendor lists???

[chuck hahn]

RIMFIRE CYCLE SCREWS has kits for several bikes in both mild steel and stainless...but not with the chromed flange head style I am looking for.

[SAVAGE]

Any benefits to using flanged head bolts,as opposed to the allen caps,with the larger surface area do they offer better performance ? Seen some nice stainless ones ....

[BassCliff]

Hi,

Cliff and Ed..I have been looking for the chromed socket styled bolt kits that have the frlanges already built into them Just like the OEM cam cover bolts but chromed. I want to put that style bolts on all my bikes. I havent seen anyone carrying bolt kits with this style head..anyhthing in your vendor lists???

Sorry, I don't know of a source. I was looking on www.mcmastercarr.com and didn't see anything like that.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

[SAVAGE]

RIMFIRE CYCLE SCREWS has kits for several bikes in both mild steel and stainless...but not with the chromed flange head style I am looking for.

The below link is for polished stainless fastners....don't know if that was the look you wanted ? Similar look to the chrome maybe ?

http://www.pro-bolt.com/Products/GS1000_Engine_Bolt_Kit_Side_Casings_Flanged_Hex