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    need help diagnosing coil thats shocking!!!

    hey new to forum and to gs's. just aquired an 80 something gs850 with 40,000 miles. when i first got the bike i got it started after a couple minutes of cranking. it ran but only with the choke all the way on. also it didnt sound like it was running on all 4 cylinders to see which ones were firing cylinders 2&3 were intermittently firing.

    heres what i have done so far

    checked the coil for cylinders 2&3, bench tested okay but i did notice that the plug boots feel looser on cylinders 2 and 3 compared to the others and if i try to touch the plug boot for 2 and 3 while its running i get shocked and if i put a screwdriver next to the boot it gets the arc from it

    i pulled off and cleaned the carbs cleaning and checking all ports and jets as well as the floats a couple of the jets cleaned up well and now it idles without the choke. I also un plugged the crankcase vent on the airbox as it was completely blocked.

    so now it will run and idle without choke but if i give it gas it seems to get stuck at higher rpm's 4-5000rpm.

    I dont want to stick a ton of money into this bike until i know i can get it running decent so until then dyna s igntion etc is out of the picture just looking for advice or guidance. also wondering if anyone has had to done any valve checking or other maint with around 40,000 miles like this bike

    #2
    Welcome to the site. Valve adjustments, PROPER carb dipping, and other basic maintenance must be done to get it running correctly which means you'll spend some money on it first.

    Go to Basscliff's site (he's on vacation for Lent right now), http://members.dslextreme.com/users/Bikecliff, and read through all of his stuff paying particular attention to the Read Me, Carb cleaning, and valve adjustment sections. Make sure you replace the orings behind the intake boots as well as the boots themselves if they are hard.
    Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

    1981 GS550T - My First
    1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
    2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

    Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
    Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
    and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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      #3
      thanks for the info ive read through a lot of the threads on basscliff's site.

      any suggestion on a good vendor for the intake gaskets and valve shims and carb parts...?

      how about the spark plug wires and coil for piston 2 and 3 shocking me and arcing off a screw driver the other two wires dont do this just wondering if that could be one of my main culprits?

      I am friends with the P/O and it was titled and running in 2008 the only thing he noted was was a little bit of black smoke unsure of it was just on start up or with throttle

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        #4
        The plug caps screw into the ends of the wires - check to make sure they're screwed in tight - maybe snip a 1/4" or so off the end of the wire if it's chewed up too much to make a tight connection.
        -1980 GS1100 LT
        -1975 Honda cb750K
        -1972 Honda cl175
        - Currently presiding over a 1970 T500

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          #5
          Many of us use Z1 Enterprises, Boulevard Suzuki, G&S Suzuki, as well as many others listed in that Read Me section on Basscliff's site. You can get your orings from www.cycleorings.com (owner is a member here), shims from the Shim Club (look under GS Services on the forum's main page), and Ebay or the rest of us under Parts Wanted or Parts for Sale for many other things you'll need.
          Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

          1981 GS550T - My First
          1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
          2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

          Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
          Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
          and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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            #6
            The insulation has broken down somewhere... you need new wires.
            1980 GS1000G - Sold
            1978 GS1000E - Finished!
            1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
            1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
            2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
            1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
            2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

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            TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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              #7
              can you replace just the wires? it looks like the wires and coil are all one piece

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                #8
                Do a search there is a ton of info on this. You can chip away the epoxy & pull the wires out but not all of them will "let go" in a way that allows replacement, some will snap inside the holes.
                You then just slide new wires in & put some silicon or new epoxy around the hole.
                1980 GS1000G - Sold
                1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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