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    2nd gear problems.

    At anything over about 3000 rpms I can't get into or out of 2nd gear. 79 GS850G

    Any estimates on repair costs on a synchronizer?
    Last edited by Guest; 04-24-2012, 09:14 PM.

    #2
    There are no synchronizers, these are constant mesh transmissions.

    You could have a problem with a shift fork, maybe something to do with the shifter parts hidden under the clutch, it's hard to tell from here. Can you describe a little better what happens when you try to shift?
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      #3
      If I am running less than 2500 rpms it's all fine. Anything over that and I can't even force it into second from first. Also have the same problem shifting from second to third. After third gear it seems to be fine.

      I rode it around last weekend and after a stretch of highway miles it shifted fine. Maybe after it warmed up but that doesnt really make any sense does it?

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        #4
        Gotta be the clutch

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          #5
          Was it working well before, and this problem just started?
          1978 GS 1000 (since new)
          1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
          1978 GS 1000 (parts)
          1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
          1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
          1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
          2007 DRz 400S
          1999 ATK 490ES
          1994 DR 350SES

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            #6
            I just got the bike a few weeks ago. It seemed to be working fine then. I only remember one time when it was hard to shift into second on the test drive.

            Then the problems started this week. At first it worked best (into second) if I put foot pressure on the gear and then depressed the clutch. It seems to have gotten progressively worse.

            I had problems last week but on the two long rides I took, by the time I did my turn around It was shifting fine. In fact my buddy and I switched bikes for the ride back and he didn't have any trouble at all.

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              #7
              Did you change the oil? If so, what oil did you put in ?
              1978 GS 1000 (since new)
              1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
              1978 GS 1000 (parts)
              1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
              1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
              1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
              2007 DRz 400S
              1999 ATK 490ES
              1994 DR 350SES

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                #8
                The previous owner said it was due. I changed it yesterday.

                Castrol Actevo x-tra 4T.

                10w40 part synthetic.

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                  #9
                  WOW.

                  I thought Rotella T-6 was expensive at $22 for the gallon.

                  Hope your get your money's worth out of it.

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                    #10
                    To support my local family-owned bike shop that I've been buying tires, helmets and gear from for years? Rather than buying from wal-mart?

                    Yes. I did get my moneys worth. Thanks for asking.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by matt1100 View Post
                      Gotta be the clutch
                      Cannot be the clutch, a lot of people never use the clutch to shift, it works just fine with or without.
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                        #12
                        Twice the price of full synthetic for a blend.
                        These guys should be selling whisky.
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                        Life is too short to ride an L.

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                          #13
                          Do you think it could be the blend? Should I stay away from blends too? I know not to use full synthetic.

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                            #14
                            Full synthetic is fine, but any non energy conserving oil is fine as long as it's not too old and the shifting gets difficult.
                            The 10-40 you put in is fine.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Konnick View Post
                              The previous owner said it was due. I changed it yesterday.

                              Castrol Actevo x-tra 4T.

                              10w40 part synthetic.

                              http://www.amazon.com/Castrol-10W40-.../dp/B0050J4IR2
                              I was just wondering if maybe you had put an energy conserving oil in, but I believe that would make the clutch slip

                              It could be a number of things, I'd start with an easy one by pulling the clutch cover and checking the end of the shift shaft for alignment, then checking the parts on the end of the shift drum.

                              After that , pull the motor, flip it over and take off the bottom case. Check the drum, forks and fork shafts.


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                              Last edited by Big T; 04-25-2012, 09:30 PM.
                              1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                              1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                              1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                              1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                              1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                              1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                              2007 DRz 400S
                              1999 ATK 490ES
                              1994 DR 350SES

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