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    Starter clutch gear

    I narrowed down the rattle noise my bike was making to the primary gear behind the starter clutch. The clutch seems tight and torqued down fully but there is in and out play in the gear behind it. Is this gear on bearings? Is there a way to tighten it down? I'm having a lot of trouble removing the clutch itself to check since no one has the right size bolts for me to make a tool like I've seen in threads.
    Last edited by Guest; 10-13-2012, 01:42 PM.

    #2
    More than likely the bolts on the back side that hold the clutch to the rotor are loose or broken.

    Have to get the rotor off with the right puller/tool


    Nic
    83 GS1100ES rebuild:

    http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170032

    Budget GSXR Conversion:

    http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=200563

    New to me bike: 2008 B-KING

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      #3
      Use this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flywheel-Rot...304b2f&vxp=mtr

      in conjunction with an impact driver and it should pop right off. might take a little heat from a torch. I like to lube the threads up with a bit of bearing grease. Helps keep both threads in good shape.

      Nic

      I have one you could borrow but for 10 bucks you might as well get your own.

      After you get it off, check the condition of the rollers and pins in the clutch and the general condition of the holes the pins fit into in the clutch.

      If the Bolts on the rear are loose. Retorque them down with some red locktight.
      83 GS1100ES rebuild:

      http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170032

      Budget GSXR Conversion:

      http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=200563

      New to me bike: 2008 B-KING

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        #4
        The starter clutch has 3 rollers dangling by springs- when gear spins these rollers jam onto crankshaft and spin it; when motor catches, the rollers release their grip. see pic (stolen from ???)
        1981 gs650L

        "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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          #5
          Originally posted by tom203 View Post
          The starter clutch has 3 rollers dangling by springs- when gear spins these rollers jam onto crankshaft and spin it; when motor catches, the rollers release their grip. see pic (stolen from ???)

          Stolen from me.... Here are the full sized pictures:

          Push the spring back out of your way and put the pin in using a paper clip or in my case some fencing wire



          Hold the pin in place



          Put the roller in







          Either way, you'll want to go slow when playing with those as the rollers and springs don't always play nice.
          Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

          1981 GS550T - My First
          1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
          2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

          Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
          Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
          and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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            #6
            If you have trouble breaking the bolts, I can tell you where to weld it together solid. I was breaking the bolts every 2 weeks. Had it welded in July and no more problems... It is not a temporary fix. There is also a electrical fix that helps take the stress off the bolts. Do a search and you will find it. I involves rewiring the kill switch. One of Rays idea's...
            Curt
            sigpic'85 GS1150 1428 14-1 200+hp Hang On

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              #7
              Originally posted by niclpnut View Post
              Use this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flywheel-Rot...304b2f&vxp=mtr

              in conjunction with an impact driver and it should pop right off. might take a little heat from a torch. I like to lube the threads up with a bit of bearing grease. Helps keep both threads in good shape.

              Nic

              I have one you could borrow but for 10 bucks you might as well get your own.

              After you get it off, check the condition of the rollers and pins in the clutch and the general condition of the holes the pins fit into in the clutch.

              If the Bolts on the rear are loose. Retorque them down with some red locktight.
              I bought that tool and its not screwing in. Seems to be too big. Am I missing something?

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                #8
                Originally posted by overboostin View Post
                I bought that tool and its not screwing in. Seems to be too big. Am I missing something?
                If it's 16 mm, it would be a tad bigger than 5/8 inch, i.e. .629 inch - maybe they shipped wrong size??? I've never measured the tapped hole in rotor

                Edit; it's supposed to screw into tapped hole in rotor, and then as you screw in deeper it pushes on end of crankshaft, causing rotor to "fall off" taper
                Last edited by tom203; 10-19-2012, 04:41 PM. Reason: confusion
                1981 gs650L

                "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                  #9
                  It came in a package so I don't think it's the wrong size. It's the one from the eBay link.

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                    #10
                    Both Motion Pro and Pitt Posse reference the puller for the 81-83 GS650G as a M16x1.5

                    Should be what you have.

                    Nic
                    83 GS1100ES rebuild:

                    http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170032

                    Budget GSXR Conversion:

                    http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=200563

                    New to me bike: 2008 B-KING

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                      #11
                      It screws into the big round rotor once the screw is removed right? The clutch in front of the gear.

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                        #12
                        Anyone have any idea? I really want to ride my bike.

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                          #13
                          I have a GS1100. Well a little bigger. Anyway... I am not sure if the look is the same, but I heat the rotor with the outside threads till its dull red. I then thread the puller on to the rotor. This is after backing out the inner threaded ram in the tool. Thread the puller in fully. Then start tightening the inner ram preferrably with a impact rench. The rotor will pop off. If no impact, put it in 5th and have a buddy hold the brake as you muscle it off.
                          I don't know if this will help if you have the wrong tool. My engine has whats call a big end crank. Otherwise, I would send you the tool...
                          Curt
                          sigpic'85 GS1150 1428 14-1 200+hp Hang On

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                            #14
                            The thing is the tool I have, the diameter seems slighty too big to thread in.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by overboostin View Post
                              Anyone have any idea? I really want to ride my bike.
                              So your tool does not screw into the tapped rotor hole??? do the threads appear damaged? Please to not contemplate banging on rotor- the rotor will come off with right tool!
                              1981 gs650L

                              "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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