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    Clutch springs.

    Okay was thinking about some new clutch springs (mine are really stiff) because of the arthritis in my hands is beginning to bother me more and more over the years. Supposedly they were off an 80-81 1100, I looked up my bike 80 GS750E and an 80 GS1100E and low and behold the springs are the same part number. So what the heck did I get?
    The guy (his 81 GS1100E) that give them to me had replaced the stock ones with a stiffer set. I'm wondering if he gave me the stiffer set (probably didn't like them and reinstalled his stock ones)? They are a good 1/4" taller then my stock springs. Anyways, I'm looking at EBC's CSK spring set for my bike, they say they are 10% stiffer then my stock ones. I'm thinking they are not as stiff as the springs I am currently using. What say you?
    Last edited by mrbill5491; 10-30-2012, 02:07 PM.
    sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
    1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
    2015 CAN AM RTS


    Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.
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    I hear most people only change half of the springs, leaving 3 old and 3 new. Good compromise that way. I'd also be checking your cables first.

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      #3
      Cable is new and lubed and slides easy.
      sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
      1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
      2015 CAN AM RTS


      Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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        #4
        New stock springs are the forum favorite. EBC will make your hand ache.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Nessism View Post
          New stock springs are the forum favorite. EBC will make your hand ache.
          My hand aches now with what I have and I'm not sure what I have. Think the guy when he gave them to me switched them at the time. I mean these springs are really stiff, shades of the early 80's Harley stiff if not more so.
          sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
          1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
          2015 CAN AM RTS


          Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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            #6
            Yeah, try suzuki ones- these guys claim to have them for $1.51 each


            http://www.buymotorcycleparts.com/suzuki_parts.htm#/Suzuki/GS750E_(1980)/CLUTCH/02800001/5602800014
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              #7
              The stock Suzuki clutch is a feather pull, or at least it is if everything is working right. Feather pull meaning you can pull it with the pinky alone. How worn is your clutch lever and perch? Did you route the cable correctly? Is the basket worn out? Everything adjusted properly?
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                #8
                Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                The stock Suzuki clutch is a feather pull, or at least it is if everything is working right. Feather pull meaning you can pull it with the pinky alone. How worn is your clutch lever and perch? Did you route the cable correctly? Is the basket worn out? Everything adjusted properly?
                That was the problem with the clutch on this bike, it would slip under load in the first 3 gears (bike was only 2 years old at the time and never has been just a pinky pull). Once I installed the stiffer springs no more clutch slippage. Clutch lever is barely 2 years old it is fine, perch is fine too, new cable routed like it should be, basket was fine last time I installed new clutch plates (8 years ago), and every thing is adjusted like it should be. None of that is the problem it is just the springs. When I installed these springs it stiffened up right then. At the time it was fine, now it is bothering my hand. So as I mention in the first post I thought I was giving a set of springs off a same year model 1100 as my 750, wasn't the case. So my thinking the EBCs are going to be no where as stiff as these springs I have now. I would even say the springs now are 30% + stiffer then what was stock.
                Last edited by mrbill5491; 10-30-2012, 02:38 PM.
                sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
                1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
                2015 CAN AM RTS


                Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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                  #9
                  I bought and installed the APE "extra disc" clutch kit recenetly. Kept the fibers but those springs made my lever so stiff it was ridiculous. Back to stockers now

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                    #10
                    Stock springs are great. My wife has NO problem pulling the clutch on her bike, and no matter how much I try, I can't get the clutch to slip.

                    OEM springs, nice pull. The new springs were almost 3mm longer than what came out, so that is where a lot of the lost pressure was.

                    Oh, those prices are not bad, but Boulevard and G&S Suzuki have them for $1.34.

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                      #11
                      Okay just ordered some new springs, once they arrive and I get those super stiffies out and find my old springs, I'll take some pics. The new ones where $1.50 apiece and Tempe AZ is real close so the shipping charges aren't much either.
                      Last edited by mrbill5491; 10-30-2012, 05:59 PM.
                      sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
                      1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
                      2015 CAN AM RTS


                      Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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                        #12
                        Yup, I took out the original clutch springs, which had been squeezed down for 30 years, and put in new Suzuki OEM springs. With new springs, the pull tension was about the same or less, but the clutch sure worked a lot better. Save yourself about $75 by putting in new clutch springs instead of replacing the clutch discs themselves.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by DPage View Post
                          Yup, I took out the original clutch springs, which had been squeezed down for 30 years, and put in new Suzuki OEM springs. With new springs, the pull tension was about the same or less, but the clutch sure worked a lot better. Save yourself about $75 by putting in new clutch springs instead of replacing the clutch discs themselves.
                          Clutch disks are about 8 years old and I'm not a hard rider though do alot of two up riding, so they are good. I'm just curious now to see what springs I do have in it compared to the new ones I ordered.
                          sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
                          1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
                          2015 CAN AM RTS


                          Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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                            #14
                            Just installed my new EBC clutch springs and omg, what a difference. Soooo much easier now. I need to find a spring compression tester to see what these springs are that I took out.

                            I could start the spring hold down bolt with my fingers with the EBC springs, the others no way.
                            sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
                            1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
                            2015 CAN AM RTS


                            Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mrbill5491 View Post
                              Just installed my new EBC clutch springs and omg, what a difference. Soooo much easier now. I need to find a spring compression tester to see what these springs are that I took out.

                              I could start the spring hold down bolt with my fingers with the EBC springs, the others no way.
                              With Suzuki springs it would have been much easier to pull than with the EBC.
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                              Life is too short to ride an L.

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