Ring Size

[mavrik]

Can anyone tell me the ring size (all measurements) for a 79 GS750... to make a long story short I found a set of rings for my XV 920 Virago at Grants Pistonrings.. and they have a minimum charge of $100.00 ... so if I can get the right measurements for my 750 I can get them there as well and make the $100.00 charge... BTW the rings for the Virago are discontinued so I had to look through 60 pages of rings to match them and I was lucky enough to find a perfect match... ring for a VW of all things... BTW your help would be greatly appreciated... my 750 is my rider so I have no way of measuring the rings at this time...

 

[Steve]

I am reasonably certain that you can find that information in a service manual.

You evidently don't have one, so click HERE and get your own copy.

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[mavrik]

Steve I do have one and obviously you haven't looked to see what specs are in yours.. seriously thought they only provide part of what I need... I need someone to measure the ring width as it is just as important as the thickness...
again it would be greatly appreciated... and please no more smart ass responses...

 

[Steve]

... and please no more smart ass responses...

I am really sorry that you considered that to be a "smart ass response".

Don't worry, you will get no more of them from me. :-k

In fact, you won't get ANYTHING from me. :-\\\

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[cowboyup3371]

Wow three posts and already trying to be a smartass towards people trying to help

 

[mavrik]

Wow three posts and already trying to be a smartass towards people trying to help

sorry but telling me to look in my manual is of no help to me... the information I am asking for is not in any manual... I checked my manual first and then I went to the library and checked in the 2 that they had with no luck so after exhausting all resources I had available to me I thought someone here would be able to provide me what I needed as someone who had replaced their rings might have them lying around and measure them for my request...

put yourself in my shoes... you come here to tap into the experience of hundreds of guys who have done this work and amassed a great wealth of knowledge, and you ask your question and all you get is "look in your manual"...

so as for only 3 posts maybe this is why I have only three posts...

 

[mavrik]

If you already had all the specs EXCEPT for ring width, then why didn't you ASK for that?

Your question comes across like you are expecting to be spoon feed.

wow I guess everybody here comes with attitude...

 

[mavrik]

Nessism
I just have to address your response... I don't know about you but I would rather have numbers measures directly off the rings than numbers printed in a book, anytime...
maybe if you were a mechanic you would understand this...

 

[cowboyup3371]

Yes there are times when books may not have everything but i do expect to be told to look it up as it means I learn how to take care of myself when the time comes. There are many things the books give us if we take the time to look especially knowing it can take time for folks to see the question. But to slap the hand that feeds you with your kind of an attitude is just poor manners and downright disrespectful.

As Steve said, expect no help from me which will be a downright shame if I had the answer that could help. I mean why should I if you're going to treat people that way.

 

[Guest]

wow I guess everybody here comes with attitude...

Not everyone, just ones that missed thier nappy time.
Welcome to the site, shame you got that kind of greating.

 

[Guest]

Yes there are times when books may not have everything but i do expect to be told to look it up as it means I learn how to take care of myself when the time comes. There are many things the books give us if we take the time to look especially knowing it can take time for folks to see the question. But to slap the hand that feeds you with your kind of an attitude is just poor manners and downright disrespectful.

As Steve said, expect no help from me which will be a downright shame if I had the answer that could help. I mean why should I if you're going to treat people that way.

Really Cowboy, and you give advice that you don't have knowledge of. like telling people that head bearing shims aren't nessary, when that actually could lead to serious accident.

Telling people to look it up or do a sesrch is no help. Might as well just say nothing. Just as helpful to the problem, but less atitude.

 

[Guest]

the ring thickness specifications and wear limits are on page 26 of the suzuki manual,
sorry for the young kids' attitude,

 

[Guest]

the ring thickness specifications and wear limits are on page 26 of the suzuki manual,
sorry for the young kids' attitude,

I could be wrong, but I think he is looking for the I and O diameter or the difference between them.

 

[Guest]

Yes, I may be wrong as well, that's one of my few talents.

the width of the ring stock (id-od) should be fairly standard, in accordance with bore size.

I might add that ring thickness is critical, if ring axial clearance is to tight, gas pressure will not be able to seal the ring to the piston and inflate it against the cylinder wall.
if the ring is too thin and/or axial clearance too great it will flutter during high rpm at TDC slamming into the ring lands and breaking.

perhaps too tight a radial clearance will also cause sealing issues, i hadn't considered that.

 

[GregT]

This thread and some of the responses amuse me...slightly.

As someone who regularly puts automotive rings into bike motors, It's unusual to find much difference in the radial width given similar bore sizes.

As I'm usually machining the ring grooves to accept wider rings it's no problem to deepen the grooves at the same time - if it's needed.

Too little radial clearance can be a problem but too much usually doesn't matter.

Hope this helps.

 

[Who Dat?]

Just signed in to see what was happening, saw this, thought I would make a comment or two, coming from someone who reads a LOT more than he posts.

Can anyone tell me the ring size (all measurements) for a 79 GS750...

This is a rather broad request.

If you already had all the specs EXCEPT for ring width, then why didn't you ASK for that?

Your question comes across like you are expecting to be spoon feed.

True enough.

If you were looking for specific information, it would have come across a LOT more friendly if you had asked something like:
"I have looked in my manual, but can not find the specification for the ring thickness of a GS750. Does anybody happen to know what it is?"

It actually came across more like: "tell me everything you know about my bike".

sorry but telling me to look in my manual is of no help to me... the information I am asking for is not in any manual...

As shown a bit later, it evidently IS in the manual.

... put yourself in my shoes... you come here to tap into the experience of hundreds of guys who have done this work and amassed a great wealth of knowledge, and you ask your question and all you get is "look in your manual"...

That's because all of the information that is usually NECESSARY is found in the manual.

so as for only 3 posts maybe this is why I have only three posts...

I looked at your other (earlier) posts, was not impressed with them, either.

wow I guess everybody here comes with attitude...

Yep, and you appear to be part of "everybody", because you seem to have an attitude, too.

the ring thickness specifications and wear limits are on page 26 of the suzuki manual,
sorry for the young kids' attitude,

Why are you apologizing for his attitude? You didn't create it, did you?

 

[GregT]

Again - amusing.

If you read the original post and see what it is that he is trying to achieve, what he asks is perfectly reasonable.

The manual doesn't give enough info to be able to source alternative rings.

It is therefore a reasonable request on here to ask what he did in the hope someone has done the same previously or has the required info to hand.

If everyone who asked an oddball question was met with the reply "look in the manual" this would be a sad forum indeed....

 

[Crankthat]

Was going to post a few observances as to how some guys can be really helpful with a quick reply and sometimes come off as a wiseazz may they try or not?
And how some are newbies that are really fed up with there search found this kickazz site and posted the question that is holding them up on their rebuild without reading forum stuff first.
Did anyone get the results they wanted with this thread?
Though someone posted the numbers I think everybody was discouraged with what they have been taught.
I know I am!

 

[cowboyup3371]

Really Cowboy, and you give advice that you don't have knowledge of. like telling people that head bearing shims aren't nessary, when that actually could lead to serious accident.

Telling people to look it up or do a sesrch is no help. Might as well just say nothing. Just as helpful to the problem, but less atitude.

So I went back and read my response you so slightly reference here and much like the puppet master you like to refer to, neither of you read it very well. I said I think it will be okay. In no way did I give him advice that should be taken as gospel. However, my comment was made after looking at the stem sitting in my frame at the same location as before then verifying it with someone else. At no time have I ever claimed to know it all and will regularly defer to those more knowledgeable in my statements. But I will not force anyone to listen to what I say through any sort of brow-beating.

To the OP, good luck with your build and I hope you find the information you need

 

[Dragon Breath]

Wow, talk about drama.

To the OP, good luck with your build and I hope you find the information you need

That should not be very hard, but he is going to have to eat some humble pie in the process.

He was given a decent hint in post #2 and then "spoon fed" the information in post #13.