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    aluminium rear sprocket - how long of life span, weight vs steel?

    I've got a Hayabusa grade 530 o-ring chain, and now shopping for 530 sprockets. I am tempted to buy a nice looking aluminium rear sprocket, but I know the lifespan will be less than steel. How many miles or years do you think I can get out of aluminium vs. steel? It's an 844cc GS750 that I ride probably 5000 miles a year, sometimes fairly hard, but no wheelies or burnouts anymore.
    '77 GS750 920cc heavily modded
    '97 Kawasaki KDX220R rugged terrain ripper!
    '99 Kawasaki KDX220R​ rebuild in progress
    '79 GS425stock
    PROJECTS:
    '77 Suzuki PE250 woods racer
    '77 GS550 740cc major mods
    '77 GS400 489cc racer build
    '76 Rickman CR1000 GS1000/1100
    '78 GS1000C/1100

    #2
    Also, 15-41 (2.73 ratio) in a 630 was stock gearing, and it's fairly quick, but does spin about 5100rpm's at "70mph" which I think is really about 66 or 67mph with my 110/90-18 front). In a 530, a 17-47 (2.76 ratio) would be the closest gear ratio but slightly faster accelerating, or 18-50 at 2.78 ratio. I am leaning towards the 18-50 for a little extra chain clearance off of my new used aluminium GS1100E swing arm, as I don't want to ding it up if the chain gets loose. Think I will notice much rpm increase at 70mph, or much more acceleration power?
    '77 GS750 920cc heavily modded
    '97 Kawasaki KDX220R rugged terrain ripper!
    '99 Kawasaki KDX220R​ rebuild in progress
    '79 GS425stock
    PROJECTS:
    '77 Suzuki PE250 woods racer
    '77 GS550 740cc major mods
    '77 GS400 489cc racer build
    '76 Rickman CR1000 GS1000/1100
    '78 GS1000C/1100

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      #3
      JUNK....Dont do it. Got less than 5,00 out of the one I put on the 77 750. Go with the Sunstar steel ones is my recommandation.
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        #4
        Once the sprocket wears a little bit, it starts to eat the chain, which eats the sprocket even faster. Vicious circle. My guess is that with both new sprockets and a new chain, the whole works with the aluminum rear sprocket would be shot in about 1/4 the miles as with a good steel sprocket. I'm sure it depends a lot on quality. There are also some aluminum sprockets with a steel rim, steel teeth. Almost as light as aluminum but without the wear problem. They are not cheap though, and I don't know if they are available for a GS...
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          #5
          I am running 16-43 's[ 2.68] on my 78 1000, seams to be a good ratio, I have a 160/60/17 rear tire. not sure what the final ratio is .Aluminum will wear much faster , and if you ride hard you can toast a sprocket in short order. I use to waste at least one a season road racing. And that was only 8 weekends a year.
          1984 GS1100GK newest addition to the heard
          80 GS 1000gt- most favorite ride love this bike
          1978 GS1000E- Known as "RoadKill" , Finished :D
          83 gs750ed- first new purchase
          85 EX500- vintage track weapon
          1958Ducati 98 Tourismo
          “Remember When in doubt use full throttle, It may not improve the situation ,but it will end the suspense ,
          If it isn't going to make it faster or safer it isn't worth doing

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            #6
            There has got to be a better way to shave ounces than compromise the strength of something as important as your sprockets.

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              #7
              Aluminum is just not tough enough for the real world. Might be fine for a race bike on a clean track, where it will last a race or two, but if you want a reliable bike stick with steel. How much weight will it save, and what is a pound saved in the sprocket when these old steel frame bikes are so heavy everywhere else anyway?

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                #8
                Originally posted by FiremanBob View Post
                ..what is a pound saved in the sprocket when these old steel frame bikes are so heavy everywhere else anyway?
                Removing a pound from rotational mass has a much greater effect than simply removing a pound from the frame or other parts of the bike.

                Having said that, a sprocket change on it's own, isn't likely to make much difference .

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                  #9
                  Yeah, it's unsprung weight too, so it's even better to lose the weight, but aluminum sprockets just don't cut it for me.
                  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

                  Life is too short to ride an L.

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                    #10
                    Got it... Cant find any 6 bolt gs sprockets with the inner piece aluminium & the outer in steel, so it looks like I'll be going with a 17-48 or 18-51. I'd prefer the 17-48 for weight, but with an aluminium gs1100e swing arm, I'm considering the 18-51 for more clearance as Ive read on Z1's 630->530 page that an 18 in a 530 is about the same as a 15 in the stock 630 in terms of diameter. I don't want to let an unnoticed loose chain gouge out my nice alloy swinger, but I do want a little more weight savings while running a wider gear spread to give me 3.2%-3.4% better acceleration but the same percentage decrease in vehicle speed at highway rpm 69mph@5100 approximately as is stock gear 140/70-18 tire, 5100 rpm will give me 66.7 or 66.9mph with the gears I'm contemplating. A worthwhile trade I think. I can always swap from 17-48 to 18-48 for a big change if a 17 is even a candidate
                    '77 GS750 920cc heavily modded
                    '97 Kawasaki KDX220R rugged terrain ripper!
                    '99 Kawasaki KDX220R​ rebuild in progress
                    '79 GS425stock
                    PROJECTS:
                    '77 Suzuki PE250 woods racer
                    '77 GS550 740cc major mods
                    '77 GS400 489cc racer build
                    '76 Rickman CR1000 GS1000/1100
                    '78 GS1000C/1100

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                      #11
                      My options seem to be oem gs550 sprockets, JT, or Sunstar. Are there any other recommendations on brands or where to get good deals aside from ebay?
                      '77 GS750 920cc heavily modded
                      '97 Kawasaki KDX220R rugged terrain ripper!
                      '99 Kawasaki KDX220R​ rebuild in progress
                      '79 GS425stock
                      PROJECTS:
                      '77 Suzuki PE250 woods racer
                      '77 GS550 740cc major mods
                      '77 GS400 489cc racer build
                      '76 Rickman CR1000 GS1000/1100
                      '78 GS1000C/1100

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                        #12
                        Right here my friend.

                        80 gs1100 16-v ported & polished, 1 mm oversize intake valves, 1150 carbs w/Dynojet stage 3, plus Bandit/gsxr upgrades

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                          #13
                          My point was not the weight by itself, but the infinitesimal advantage possibly gained against the cost of wearing out the sprocket in a short time under real world conditions.

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                            #14
                            forget aluminum and steel.....



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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mvalenti View Post
                              You may want to research that one. Titanium is way more expensive than that sprocket sells for. A lifetime warranty.....biggest line of BS in existence. What happens if the company goes under in a couple of years?

                              I looked at their stuff a few weeks back when doing the sprocket/chain research.

                              The BS story on their website should get your spider senses tingling.....

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                              I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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